Boiler installation problem. What to do?.
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I can't win. Now I would be paying too much!
I can't win. Now I would be paying too much!
Don't worry - he's from oop North. They still use coal dust as currency up there.
Those are top whack prices I agree, but they are blind.
The PRV and Filter prices should be a bit cheaper once he's seen the work. Hopefully other items should come down a smidgen too.
The PRV and Filter prices should be a bit cheaper once he's seen the work. Hopefully other items should come down a smidgen too.
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I think you might have to take the pragmatic approach if you can't find anyone else to take it on (this is from a diyers point of view). You have an installation that doesn't conform to regs, and a hole in the roof. The benchmark certificate and building notification can't have been done legally in its current state. If you can't find anyone else to rectify the installation you may have only two choices, pay or start again and pay 
Yep, I will go ahead as I don't have the luxury of choice any more.
FWIW, he does appear fully competent and has been very open and willing to discuss everything in great detail.
Makes me think of other little things I didn't give much thought before. Like one particular question I asked the previous engineer during the initial visit but he didn't answer instead I got "let us worry about all of that". Still feel like such a fool.
Also realised today I need to be more careful with my words when discussing requirements with a tradesperson. It's all well and good doing things myself where I am capable and keeping costs down, but when paying someone else where I am not capable and potentially dangerous work it needs to be emphasised that I want to pay for quality workmanship not cost-cutting. That's the whole point of not doing it myself.
FWIW, he does appear fully competent and has been very open and willing to discuss everything in great detail.
Makes me think of other little things I didn't give much thought before. Like one particular question I asked the previous engineer during the initial visit but he didn't answer instead I got "let us worry about all of that". Still feel like such a fool.
Also realised today I need to be more careful with my words when discussing requirements with a tradesperson. It's all well and good doing things myself where I am capable and keeping costs down, but when paying someone else where I am not capable and potentially dangerous work it needs to be emphasised that I want to pay for quality workmanship not cost-cutting. That's the whole point of not doing it myself.
I always find that a trader who is willing to discuss the details of a job, tends to be more likely to care about doing a good job (imo). When I had to get my roof recovered I was never given a start date but woke up one morning to scaffolding all over my house. When he started he was rather surprised that I had sourced a load of reclaimed roof tiles for him, but i had been unable to contact him. Fortunately they did a good job but the lack of communication was frustrating to say the least.
Obviously the reason for employing a trader is that they know about the job / have the capabilities. No way could I recover a roof! But its good to be singing from the same hymn sheet (as it were) at least.
Obviously the reason for employing a trader is that they know about the job / have the capabilities. No way could I recover a roof! But its good to be singing from the same hymn sheet (as it were) at least.
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To be honest I think the second guy your now employing is having your pants down, more importantly you've no doubt discussed with him the issues and the fact you've not paid the original installer but are considering deducting his charges from the original bill so he's massively bumped his prices up!!!!!!!
£300 for a filter/scale reducer and filling loop is just one example. As a one off visit then fine, on site doing multiple works is ridiculous, and to top it off it's not a "your required to have" scenario either!Doesn't matter how blind the job is, it's £150 tips of materials and 1hours labour whilst on site doing other works!
£200 for a PRV that only has to go through a wall and terminate safely which in 99% of the time is just turned back to the wall.
I really don't need to go on, I'd be very wary.
My recommendation is ring gas safe get a free inspection, they will give you a full list of defects that you will require putting right.
They will also have seen this situation a 1000 times and be able to tell you which installers are willing to attend after their inspections.
When this all kicks off and you start getting funny over not paying the original bill your going to have one hell of a battle justifying that the job required £1500 worth of work to put it to a satisfactory standard.
£300 for a filter/scale reducer and filling loop is just one example. As a one off visit then fine, on site doing multiple works is ridiculous, and to top it off it's not a "your required to have" scenario either!Doesn't matter how blind the job is, it's £150 tips of materials and 1hours labour whilst on site doing other works!
£200 for a PRV that only has to go through a wall and terminate safely which in 99% of the time is just turned back to the wall.
I really don't need to go on, I'd be very wary.
My recommendation is ring gas safe get a free inspection, they will give you a full list of defects that you will require putting right.
They will also have seen this situation a 1000 times and be able to tell you which installers are willing to attend after their inspections.
When this all kicks off and you start getting funny over not paying the original bill your going to have one hell of a battle justifying that the job required £1500 worth of work to put it to a satisfactory standard.
You need to be clear with him that his price includes materials and labour to correct the flue. The way he has worded it and listed his prices is ambiguous.
Terms like, your flue will also need looking at
Terms like, your flue will also need looking at
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Yes it's painful..
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