Bojo Never wanted a deal

[Notch7]

All you assume is you have all the answers and others here dont

Wrong.

The answers are available, Festive doesnt want to find them

Here you go, took me 30 secs to find a comprehensive answer, fill yer boots:

We’ve already noted before that a range of government ministers and experts have explained the problems with GATT 24, including Bank of England governor Mark Carney, International Trade Secretary Liam Fox (a leading Brexit supporter), and trade experts such as Peter Ungphakorn. EU Trade Commissioner Cecilia Malmström has described the idea that Article 24 would prevent tariffs in a no deal scenario as “completely wrong”.

Since we last wrote about this topic, the Director General of the World Trade Organisation, Roberto Azevêdo, has also said in an interview with Prospect magazine: “Article XXIV of the GATT is simply the provision of global trade law under which free trade agreements and customs unions are concluded... If there is no agreement, then Article XXIV would not apply, and the standard WTO terms would.”

Mr. Hunt’s comments about the position of Geoffrey Cox, the Attorney General (the government’s chief legal adviser) and a supporter of Mr. Johnson, seem to stem from a Financial Times report on 23 June. It said that guidance from the Attorney General’s office in January said it would be a “prima facie breach of WTO law” for the UK to maintain zero tariffs for the EU whilst charging other countries import duties, which a “standstill” implies. Mr Cox did not comment on the report
https://fullfact.org/europe/gatt-nine-lives-article-24-again/

 

[Notch7]

So that isnt a myth but all options are batted away by people who dont want to brexit that's the mindset going on here.

If you are referring to article 24 -that is not an option for tariff free trade,msee above.

Its been batted away because its wrong.

 

[Notch7]

But at the same time the rest of the house has kept all cards to their chest intent on flinging mud back and blocking the Tories even when May attempted middle ground

That is incorrect.

Tory Brexiteers stopped the May WA going through.

Stop blaming it on everybody else.

 

[Notch7]

e cause of fighting the opposition losing sight of the bigger picture

The bigger picture is that no deal will only result in more EU negotiations.

Stop clinging to this myth it is a clean break it is not.

 

[Notch7]

What is crucial is they find a way forward or they should all be booted out. As Farage said parliament is rotten to the core and hes right on that one at leas

What rubbish.

Parliament is doing its job.

A no deal would be very damaging.

Perhaps you would like to explain:

Why a PM should be allowed to stop parliament debating no deal, simply because he knows there is no majority for something so damaging.

And why do you think it is acceptable to avoid making yellowhammer public -clearly Johnson knows it is a damaging report so he wants to keep the public from the truth.

Farage is rotten to the core not parliament

 

[Notch7]

What is crucial is they find a way forward or they should all be booted out

Why?

All scenarios of Brexit have a negative outcome.
The promises made in the referendum have been found to be untrue.

Why should parliament try and push Brexit through, it is a con.
People voted for a Brexit that isnt real.

 

[Notch7]

You lot consistently fail in being honest

No

You fail in being honest.
Stop peddling lies like gatt 24

 

[festive]

Here we go you absolute denial biased boys.

Read this...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49646544

Then read the highest rated comment

In 3 years Labour have offered nothing to the brexit debate, they have just opposed everything to try and get into power. When they are offered the chance to win power they run away as they are clueless and unelectable with their current bench of haters of everything British.

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So theres alot of people there with the same sentiment as me. No doubt you minority think you know best on here.. Crack on with your blinkered rhetoric

 

[JohnD]

So theres alot of people there with the same sentiment as me.

That must be a great comfort to you.

However, it proves nothing.

 

[SirGalahad]

Here we go you absolute denial biased boys.

Read this...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49646544

Then read the highest rated comment

In 3 years Labour have offered nothing to the brexit debate, they have just opposed everything to try and get into power. When they are offered the chance to win power they run away as they are clueless and unelectable with their current bench of haters of everything British.

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So theres alot of people there with the same sentiment as me. No doubt you minority think you know best on here.. Crack on with your blinkered rhetoric

Russian Bot alert.

Argued against their own point.

Haters of everything British.

Sentiment over sense.

Labour has been poor in oppostion because they wrongly believe they can bridge the divide between maniacal leavers and remainers.

 

[festive]

Deny deny crack on. Lets see what happens in the next GE denial boys

 

[JohnD]

Buffoon is desparate to have an election before Brexit occurs, because he fears the consequences.

Nobody else is under any obligation to help him in his desparation.

In response to “Boris Johnson’s bullying fails to cow his opponents”, Everyman says:

"Johnson could request the extension only for Cummings to vandalise the EU to provoke them into refusal. The opposition should wait until Johnson has requested the extension and, crucially, the EU has granted it. If they don't grant it and No Deal happens, then the opposition should keep Johnson in power for as long as it takes for the Brexit-Conservative Party to completely own - and be seen to own - the awful consequences."

 

[noseall]

Lets see what happens in the next GE denial boys

I keep telling you - not before Brexit is concluded. The Tories masterminded the clusterf ick that is Brexit, they have continued to allow it to manifest into the worst political situation to hit these shores since WWII and now the Tory Brexit Party are being seen as anti-democratic bullies led by Cummings in order to try and push through their toxic agenda.

Brexit is all yours and your precious Tories boyo. Enjoy.

 

[ellal]

I see bojo is going back to the original N.I. backstop...

He's willing to sacrifice the union for his own ego!

 

[Notch7]

Crack on with your blinkered rhetoric

Perhaps Festive can explain how the following is blinkered rhetoric:

No deal means end of frictionless trade. That is damaging to UK business
No deal means UK goes from 759 trade agreements to 0
No deal means most favoured nation rules apply - damaging to car, agri and industry.

Brexit was sold as easiest deal in history - not true
Brexit was sold as taking back control, but actually Brexit means losing control
Brexit was sold as an opportunity for trade in the new BRIC countries....we already trade with these countries
Brexit was sold as getting power back to parliament, yet Johnson thinks parliament has too much power so hes taken it away


Could a Brexiteer kindly point out the blinkered rhetoric in the above