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[JohnD]

might

I see he was "convicted of being "grossly offensive" under the Communications Act 2003" so not quite the same thing.

 

[SammyInnit]

Apparantly not. Quite a few supported him, no surprises there, but a majority disagreed with him.

A calculated move by him I think.

I must have been watching something else then.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/sky-...ar-burkas-to-bank-robbers-not-racist-11465688

 

[ellal]

Where is your scientific study that shows a direct link between clothes free for all,better exam results and reduction in bullying.??? That I would like to see!....A proper scientific double blind study!!

Always avoiding the question...I wonder why?
(I guess you are in fact the classic educational 'blind study')

So may I suggest you check out any European list of school achievements/bullying and report back here on your findings

PS. As far as I'm aware, the following ranked above the UK
(Source: OECD)

Switzerland
Estonia
Netherlands
Finland
Denmark
Slovenia
Belgium
Germany
Ireland
Poland
Norway
Austria
Sweden
France

And only one of those has school uniforms!

As for bullying?

Numbers of children who said that bullying is a problem in school

Italy - 33%
Portugal - 35%
Netherlands - 16%
Belgium - 21%
UK - 48% (Scotland - 43%, Wales - 32%)
Germany - 29%
Spain - 22%

The ball is in your court, durhamplumber!

 

[Gerrydelasel]

can you give us an example of a person being found guilty of a criminal offense just because he is a gobshite?

I see he was "convicted of being "grossly offensive" under the Communications Act 2003" so not quite the same thing.

I think 'grossly offensive' (e.g. telling bad taste jokes) is a reasonable synonym for 'gobshite'. *shrug*

 

[sodthisforfun]

Always avoiding the question...I wonder why?
(I guess you are in fact the classic educational 'blind study')

So may I suggest you check out any European list of school achievements/bullying and report back here on your findings

PS. As far as I'm aware, the following ranked above the UK
(Source: OECD)

Switzerland
Estonia
Netherlands
Finland
Denmark
Slovenia
Belgium
Germany
Ireland
Poland
Norway
Austria
Sweden
France

And only one of those has school uniforms!

As for bullying?

Numbers of children who said that bullying is a problem in school

Italy - 33%
Portugal - 35%
Netherlands - 16%
Belgium - 21%
UK - 48% (Scotland - 43%, Wales - 32%)
Germany - 29%
Spain - 22%

The ball is in your court, durhamplumber!

So is this a school uniform problem or a social attitude problem? I can't see proof either way.

Perhaps without school uniform may be worse. I know when I was at the tail end school, all those years ago, kids were just starting to bully kids over not having the right trainers. I wonder how much worse it would've been had we not worn school uniform.

 

[JohnD]

I think 'grossly offensive' (e.g. telling bad taste jokes) is a reasonable synonym for 'gobshite'. *shrug*

and have you found anyone convicted for that itself?

 

[SammyInnit]

PS. As far as I'm aware, the following ranked above the UK
(Source: OECD)

Switzerland
Estonia
Netherlands
Finland
Denmark
Slovenia
Belgium
Germany
Ireland
Poland
Norway
Austria
Sweden
France

And only one of those has school uniforms!

Ironically France, Austria, Germany, Netherlands, some parts of Spain, Italy, Belgium and Denmark all have in one way or another, a ban of some sort on niqabs and burqas.

 

[Notch7]

Are the UK and Ireland so 'superior' to the rest?

Why are you asking that?

nobody was making that argument.

 

[Gerrydelasel]

I hate it when we ban stuff the way Germany and France do, especially speech, clothing and other forms of free expression. Britain has a proud history of being more liberal and individualist, less bureaurocratic and conformist, than most European nations. Britain was where excommunicated people routinely came for refuge! I see that British value being eroded.

 

[Notch7]

PS. As far as I'm aware, the following ranked above the UK

Some polls put UK quite high in world rankings, maybe school uniforms arent that bad after all

https://worldtop20.org/2017-world-best-education-systems-1st-quarter-report

https://www.master-and-more.eu/en/top-40-education-systems-in-the-world/

1. South Korea
2. Japan
3. Singapore
4. Hong Kong
5. Finland
6. The United Kingdom
7. Canada
8. The Netherlands
9. Ireland
10. Poland
11. Denmark
12. Germany
13. Russia
14. The United States
15. Australia
16. New Zealand
17. Israel
18. Belgium
19. Czech Republic
20. Switzerland

Universities: (UK universities occupy 15 of the top 20)

1 University of Oxford
United Kingdom
83.0 93.7 77.0 92.3 74.7
2 University of Cambridge
United Kingdom
82.7 94.6 79.5 85.7 74.4
3 Sorbonne University
France
81.4 83.0 76.0 88.9 82.8
4 University of Warwick
United Kingdom
81.3 83.0 76.5 87.2 83.2
5 UCL
United Kingdom
81.2 86.2 73.0 91.2 82.4
6 University of Bristol
United Kingdom
81.1 85.4 72.5 88.6 86.4
7 University of Manchester
United Kingdom
80.6 83.6 74.5 85.1 84.9
8 University of Navarra
Spain
80.1 72.4 86.0 71.9 84.1
=9 Newcastle University
United Kingdom
Explore 79.9 79.6 77.0 80.5 85.9
=9 University of York
United Kingdom
79.9 80.8 76.5 83.2 82.0
=11 Imperial College London
United Kingdom
79.6 86.8 79.5 92.0 60.2
=11 University of Sheffield
United Kingdom
79.6 80.2 73.0 84.6 87.8
13 King’s College London
United Kingdom
Explore 79.5 85.8 72.0 86.8 80.6
14 University of Edinburgh
United Kingdom
79.0 86.6 72.0 85.6 78.6
15 University of St Andrews
United Kingdom
78.6 85.0 74.0 81.4 78.2
16 Lancaster University
United Kingdom
Explore 78.5 82.5 75.0 75.7 84.2
17 Paris-Sud University
France
78.4 75.4 77.0 75.9 86.4
18 University of Nottingham
United Kingdom
Explore 78.2 80.8 75.0 77.5 83.0
19 University of Barcelona
Spain
Explore 78.1 79.6 73.0 81.4 83.9
20 Autonomous University of Barcelona
Spain

 

[ellal]

Why are you asking that?

nobody was making that argument.

But it was a question based on the uniform/no uniform argument...

Or do you not understand the nature of a question?

PS. Stupid me...You always avoid answering questions

PPS. From your diatribe, do universities require uniforms?
(That's a question btw)

PPPS. Which bit of "So why do only two countries in Europe agree with that philosophy?" do you not understand?
(Another question btw)

Convoluting the argument when flummoxed yet again, eh notchy

 

[Notch7]

Are the UK and Ireland so 'superior' to the rest?

Nobody said they were: so why introduce 'so superior'

But it was a question based on the uniform/no uniform argument...

Or do you not understand the nature of a question?

PS. Stupid me

Yes stupid you

Convoluting the argument

How, I havent.

You are convoluting by mentioning school uniforms, in an attempt to claim UK oppression.

So why do only two countries in Europe agree with that philosophy?

So, what have you proved: nothing

 

[sodthisforfun]

PS. Stupid me...You always avoid answering questions

I've asked you questions this morning and you've not answered them.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Yes.. Both hideous. At least hoodie should have to. Be taken off once inside public places

Why would you need a balaclava????

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

I've asked you questions this morning and you've not answered them.

If we have freedom of speech, we also, implicitly, have freedom to not speak.
Just because you ask questions does not require anyone to answer them.

At least one of your questions is unverifiable:

Can I ask, those women who say they wish to wear burkas, have they simply been 'conditioned'?

So there is no need to look for any other of your questions.