Brexile Buffoon in bid for power

[Doggit]

They don't work on that principle; they just keep having referendums till they get the result they want.

 

[Notch7]

The Eu are masters making referendum repeats to get the result they want.

and they certainly want our money....as the negotiations show.

 

[JohnD]

foolish notch and doggitt both pretend to be unaware that referenda are called by individual national governments, within their own countries and according to their laws. They are not held by the EU.

Is there no limit to the nonsense and falsity they spout?*





*no there isn't

 

[Notch7]

foolish notch and doggitt both pretend to be unaware that referenda are called by individual national governments, within their own countries and according to their laws. They are not held by the EU.

Is there no limit to the nonsense and falsity they spout?*





*no there isn't

Foolish JohnD....conveniently over simplifying to suit his narrative

is there no end to his nonsense*

*apparently not

 

[JohnD]

foolish notch pretends to be offended that his false claim has been pointed out.

 

[noseall]

The Eu are masters making referendum repeats to get the result they want

Masters? That's a pretty bold statement. Do you have evidence to back it up? Or has another country set a precedent?

Or perhaps you just made it up on the spot.

 

[motorbiking]

quite a few EU members have constitutional mandates enshrined in statute. So to some degree it doesn’t matter who pulls the trigger.

 

[Doggit]

foolish notch and doggitt both pretend to be unaware that referenda are called by individual national governments, within their own countries

Now if JohnD were as smart as he thinks he is, he would have realised that I didn't mention either the EU, or the British government. My statement implied that as Cameron wanted us to stay in the EU, if he'd stayed as PM, I'm sure that he would have called another referendum. But then JD he never does miss the chance to get dig in does he.

Or has another country set a precedent?

Denmark held 2 referndums before they got a yes vote, and Ireland ended up holding second referendums on two different decisions, before they got the result they want.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2...r-minds-in-second-referendums-on-eu-treaties/

 

[Roger928]

Does anyone else seriously trust him?

I'd trust him before comrade corbyn.

 

[Roger928]

Now if JohnD were as smart as he thinks he is

Problem is he's not that smart.
He voted "remain" after all.

 

[Doggit]

Wellll, he had every right to vote remain, just as we had every right to vote leave. The non smart aspect, comes in calling us idiots for doing so, and in doing so, demonstrates a lack of tolerance.

 

[noseall]

Denmark held 2 referndums before they got a yes vote, and Ireland ended up holding second referendums on two different decisions, before they got the result they want.

I asked for clarity on this....

The Eu are masters making referendum repeats to get the result they want.

How are the EU 'masters' at making this happen? Please refrain from using bulls hit.

 

[Doggit]

Well, Britain is a member of the EU, and we send commissioners to the EU, and we attend EU meetings, so we would be part of the EU which (behind closed doors mind you) then persuades ourselves to hold another referendum - well we would have done if Cameron hadn't bailed out; not sure if it'll happen with MAY though.

 

[noseall]

Well, Britain is a member of the EU, and we send commissioners to the EU, and we attend EU meetings, so we would be part of the EU which (behind closed doors mind you) then persuades ourselves to hold another referendum - well we would have done if Cameron hadn't bailed out; not sure if it'll happen with MAY though.

I asked for facts not opinion or innuendo. One poster said 'masters' at it.
I see no evidence nor have I been presented with any.

 

[Doggit]

This is why I don't bother replying to you at times Noseall. I didn't give you and opinion, nor an innuendo, and no one can give you "facts" on such things, and I definitely don't go in for bullshyte. A discussion is where one bats ideas back and forwards, and an interrogation is where facts are demanded. By virtue that both Denmark and Ireland both held second referenda, when the first one gave a negative answer, shows one of two things, either their governments were arrogant enough to ignore the choices that the populace made, or we can infer, rightly or wrongly, that the EU, in wanting to expand itself, wanted a different answer. Just because Notch used the word "master", just shows the use of a derogatory term, but not the need to give you facts to justify it, so why were you taking so literally, or were you after an argument.