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Himmy leaves with his tail between his legs again, under the guise of being a victim
And I wish you would bugger off instead of tease us with your empty threats.
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And I wish you would bugger off instead of tease us with your empty threats.
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Perhaps I stopped engaging because you descended into your normal round of abuse again:Himmy leaves with his tail between his legs again, under the guise of being a victim
And I wish you would bugger off instead of tease us with your empty threats.
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I thought you were buggering off? Had enough of all the abuse? As I said, you really can't keep your word. Your words really do count for nothing. You've not stopped engaging at all, instead off taking screenshots to be all 'victimy' again
Admit it, you just want to flounce off - all dramatic like. Shame it doesn't really wash eh.
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Good morning.
I'll try again to have a reasonably intelligent discussion.
But if anyone feels the need to resort to strawman arguments, false allegations, insults or abuse again, all they are doing is proving beyond doubt that they are incapable of rational discussion, without getting angry and abusive.
Unless, of course, it is a cynical tactic to close down the discussion.
I'll try again to have a reasonably intelligent discussion.
But if anyone feels the need to resort to strawman arguments, false allegations, insults or abuse again, all they are doing is proving beyond doubt that they are incapable of rational discussion, without getting angry and abusive.
Unless, of course, it is a cynical tactic to close down the discussion.
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To compare and contrast the abuse in places like Rochdale, with the abuse by religious organisations, makes the contrast all the more stark.
Firstly, no-one is excusing, belittling or in any way suggesting that the crimes were less or more severe. I am merely comparing and contrasting the level of scandal and collusion involved.
I listened to the broadcast mentioned by transam, and I was shocked at the level of expletives used by the girl being interviewed.
She was being interviewed in prison. I don't remember her crime being disclosed. But I thought, it's the best place for her, for her own safety.
It was not disclosed how many times she had been in trouble with the law for her to be incarcerated, eventually. Maybe the judge thought incarceration was the best course of action for her own safety.
I would suggest that this fact alone made her an unreliable witness.
She openly admitted that she was a wayward teenager, uncontrollable and ignored the frequent warnings and advice not to seek the company of such men because they might take advantage of a vulnerable person. yet time and time again she voluntary and willfully returned to the company of the criminals, placing herself at high risk of being abused.
The criminals were not bastions of society. The children were not entrusted into their care by their parents. They were not held in esteem as safe and secure, trusted people to care for vulnerable teenagers.
Their superiors did not move the abusers to another area, city, county, or even country to cover up their crimes.
Their superiors did not dissuade the complainants from submitting formal complaints.
The abuse continued for a few years before being acted upon by the police.
The abuse may have involved about one hundred victims.
Finally, the criminals were caught, tried, found guilty and punished.
Contrast this with the abuse in religious organisations.
The priests were esteemed bastions of society, expected to take care of the children entrusted into their care.
The victims were not particularly vulnerable people, other than their age and their trust in the religious leaders. Numerous of them, probably the majority of them, being under ten years of age.
There was no warning of potential abuse by the priests, from their parents, the police, the superiors of these priests, social workers, etc.
The victims did not voluntary return to their company time and time again.
They avoided placing themselves at high risk of being abused.
The superiors of these priests moved the offenders to another parish to cover up their crimes and did not report the abuse to the police.
Their superiors did dissuade the complainants not to submit formal complaints.
The abuse continued for decades and involved thousands of victims.
The number of perpetrators alone probably vastly exceed the number of victims in the Rochdale, at el cases.
Finally, the perpetrators of these crimes are free, and continue to offend.
Firstly, no-one is excusing, belittling or in any way suggesting that the crimes were less or more severe. I am merely comparing and contrasting the level of scandal and collusion involved.
I listened to the broadcast mentioned by transam, and I was shocked at the level of expletives used by the girl being interviewed.
She was being interviewed in prison. I don't remember her crime being disclosed. But I thought, it's the best place for her, for her own safety.
It was not disclosed how many times she had been in trouble with the law for her to be incarcerated, eventually. Maybe the judge thought incarceration was the best course of action for her own safety.
I would suggest that this fact alone made her an unreliable witness.
She openly admitted that she was a wayward teenager, uncontrollable and ignored the frequent warnings and advice not to seek the company of such men because they might take advantage of a vulnerable person. yet time and time again she voluntary and willfully returned to the company of the criminals, placing herself at high risk of being abused.
The criminals were not bastions of society. The children were not entrusted into their care by their parents. They were not held in esteem as safe and secure, trusted people to care for vulnerable teenagers.
Their superiors did not move the abusers to another area, city, county, or even country to cover up their crimes.
Their superiors did not dissuade the complainants from submitting formal complaints.
The abuse continued for a few years before being acted upon by the police.
The abuse may have involved about one hundred victims.
Finally, the criminals were caught, tried, found guilty and punished.
Contrast this with the abuse in religious organisations.
The priests were esteemed bastions of society, expected to take care of the children entrusted into their care.
The victims were not particularly vulnerable people, other than their age and their trust in the religious leaders. Numerous of them, probably the majority of them, being under ten years of age.
There was no warning of potential abuse by the priests, from their parents, the police, the superiors of these priests, social workers, etc.
The victims did not voluntary return to their company time and time again.
They avoided placing themselves at high risk of being abused.
The superiors of these priests moved the offenders to another parish to cover up their crimes and did not report the abuse to the police.
Their superiors did dissuade the complainants not to submit formal complaints.
The abuse continued for decades and involved thousands of victims.
The number of perpetrators alone probably vastly exceed the number of victims in the Rochdale, at el cases.
Finally, the perpetrators of these crimes are free, and continue to offend.
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Precisely. It was not acted upon for years. Maybe the potential for the unreliability of the witnesses caused the police to think that it would be difficult to convict the abusers. Just a thought.
Rochdale / Rotherham abuse was reported and known to the police
It was ignored for years???
Hmmm wonder why
The abuse in religious institutions was not acted upon for decades.
Most of it has still not been addressed.
Most of the criminals are still free, and not been interviewed, never mind apprehended.
But plod knew about Rotherham and Rochdale
Complaints and reports
Why did they not act on the info
Tis a rhetorical question
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dontbelieveawordofit
i remember that one plainly. was only a week or two ago. unbelievable .Aww, you're always the victim aren't you? Bless your cotton socks.
Weird isn't it, that you want to mention that the victims at the church are greater in number than the Asian grooming gangs whenever Trans mentions Rochdale. You are the one who mentions numbers, not Trans. 'Pales into insignificance' I think was one of your lines, or of that ilk. How lovely of you
Edit, no, I found it: "It would pale the gang grooming abuse into insignificance". That's an abhorrent comment.
Read more: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/radio-4-documentary.549064/#ixzz6TdFViGyE
justifying crime by quoting worse crimes!
maybe we could justify the fact that a nhs worker was run over ,and other black related trivialities like people being handcuffed by police by quoting lee rigby, but that just lowers us to bobby’s level.
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dontbelieveawordofit
the good old race card.But plod knew about Rotherham and Rochdale
Complaints and reports
Why did they not act on the info
Tis a rhetorical question
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durhamplumber
I suppose you think Anthony Walker ran into the ice axe too!.The attacker was carrying the ice axe because he was en route to climb a frozen waterfall!..You would believe that defence.
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Already addressed. See below, or above.
If the police thought that the unreliability of the witnesses made the chance of conviction low, they might choose not to proceed to charges.
Or perhaps they did, and the CPS chose not to proceed.
If the victims/witnesses were wayward, disobedient, unruly, children, they would be considered as unreliable in court. Additionally, if the police were aware that the victims would seek the company of the abusers again and again, there is little that they can do to prevent that from happening.
That doesn't excuse the crime, nor blame the victim. It's the way the system works.
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Your two sides to every story shtick.
You have to make up some rubbish to justify your own position.
Frankly all the facts we know is he was attacked. But as a paid up RWR you need a narrative.
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