BTNE5 and iPlate

[PeteT33]

I want to fit an iPlate to (hopefully) improve my broadband speed but I do not have a BTNE5 socket. I do have an old PSTN line jack just inside the front door, from which a line is run up stairs to a standard line jack. Can I replace the standard line jack with a BTNE5 or do i have to replace the old PSTN line jack? Any advice would be appreciated.

 

[blondini]

I want to fit an iPlate to (hopefully) improve my broadband speed but I do not have a BTNE5 socket. I do have an old PSTN line jack just inside the front door, from which a line is run up stairs to a standard line jack. Can I replace the standard line jack with a BTNE5 or do i have to replace the old PSTN line jack? Any advice would be appreciated.

The iPlate is only of benefit if you have extension wiring, in which case you need to replace the master socket with an NTE5. I'm not sure what you mean by standard line jack versus old PSTN line jack?

edit - Reading your post again, the socket by the front door must be the master and the one you've fitted upstairs should be an extension type.

 

[PeteT33]

This is what i mean by a PSTN, and there is no slack in the wiring to fit a NTE5. I was hoping that i could simply replace the extension socket upstairs which is the only socket in the house.

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• PeteT33
• 17 Jan 2009
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[blondini]

Do you use the one in the hall and is the extension upstairs the only wired extension?

 

[disinfo]

Do want a socket downstairs?

The idea of the IPlate is to provide filtering at the source. In your situation its debatable whether it would be any benefit to you. Over a standard microfilter

You could just put an NTE5 box next to the junction box that you already have, then connect your extension to the NTE5 and replace the upstairs socket with a non master.

 

[Steve]

Ask BT to replace the old socket if its past it. We had a mini master socket from about 20 years ago, and they came and did ours FOC because it was . . . broken . . . And thus we couldn't use their services

(OK it WAS slightly broken, though it may have had a little help to get it into a replaceable condition (the innards broke away from the faceplate). It was yellowed badly and didnt suit the decor )

 

[blondini]

The idea of the IPlate is to provide filtering at the source. In your situation its debatable whether it would be any benefit to you. Over a standard microfilter

You could just put an NTE5 box next to the junction box that you already have, then connect your extension to the NTE5 and replace the upstairs socket with a non master.

The iPlate doesn't perform the function of a microfilter, you still need to use a microfilter.

The 'junction box' pictured is a type of master socket.

 

[disinfo]

The idea of the IPlate is to provide filtering at the source. In your situation its debatable whether it would be any benefit to you. Over a standard microfilter

You could just put an NTE5 box next to the junction box that you already have, then connect your extension to the NTE5 and replace the upstairs socket with a non master.

The iPlate doesn't perform the function of a microfilter, you still need to use a microfilter.

The 'junction box' pictured is a type of master socket.

Sorry, i stand corrcted. I thought it was just a BT version of the commonly avaliable ADSL faceplate. Now I see that its suppose to filter bell wire interference.

As for the old master socket, the OP could swap it for a JB and put their NTE5 next to it I suppose.

 

[blondini]

I was thinking that if he doesn't actually use the old 'master' he could get away with having another master on the extension. As long as it is the only other socket and he leaves terminal 3 in both disconnected, there won't be any need for an iPlate. I reckon a lot of diy extension sockets are done with masters so it may already be one.

 

[plugwash]

The Iplate seems to be aimed at people who dont want to do things properly (centralised filtering) and don't want to pull out the bell wire either (in case someone wants to go back to a non-dsl setup I guess)

In other words it's practically worthless for people who have a clue about phone wiring.

I have heared that the newest version of the openreach NTE5 has the bell wire filtering built in but I haven't seen an authoritive source confirming this.

 

[blondini]

I have heared that the newest version of the openreach NTE5 has the bell wire filtering built in but I haven't seen an authoritive source confirming this.

http://www.btwholesale.com/pages/downloads/Products/Internet/I_Plates_FAQ_Issue_2.pdf

http://www.btwholesale.com/pages/downloads/Products/Internet/iPlate_Instruction_Booklet_Issue_1.pdf

You may notice a slight contradiction in the second link, but it is BT after all.

 

[drgl]

The latest NTE5's have a bell wire inductor.

The ADSL faceplates(NTE2000/2005) are a centralised filter. AS for the radio filter on the i Plate-no different to a BT 80A RF2 at a guess.