Can a garden room be attached to the house?
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Jeepers, not really in keeping with the fabric of the building is it! 
I can understand why the neighbours would huff and puff a bit.
The problem with wood clad buildings and products is they get worse with age unlike brick buildings.
I can understand why the neighbours would huff and puff a bit.
The problem with wood clad buildings and products is they get worse with age unlike brick buildings.
Appearances aside, the eaves are too high for it to be Permitted Development. It needs planning permission.
You appear to be getting the two confused, just because it doesn't need Building Regs approval does not make it immune from Planning Legislation.
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Freddy; isn't max. allowable height 3m? This looks as though it could be just under, judging by the height of the doors.
There's even a little picture on the Portal.
Oops sorry your right of course but thats one problem out of the way.
There's even a little picture on the Portal.
Hmmm I did spot that one in writing and wasnt entirly sure how to inturprete it (thanks for the pic).
So how about if we fit a box gutter and increase the eves/fasia hight on the house to 450mm? IM JOKING!!!!!
So if we were to lower the roof height we would pass?
Is planning required to "spring the roof" increase the facsia/roof hight? I have done this in the past while building lean to conservatorys to allow a suficent roof pitch.
Although I guess this would still mean the eaves would be at or below the houses original eaves hight.
Although I guess this would still mean the eaves would be at or below the houses original eaves hight.
If the eaves were no higher than the existing it would appear to meet PD requirements.
For clarification of the definition of the eaves height definition refer to http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/100806_PDforhouseholders_TechnicalGuidance.pdf page 10 & 11
I don’t think I agree with some of the above. In my opinion it does need planning permission as it is not built in materials of similar appearance to the original house – ie brick. See condition A.3(a) of http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2008/2362/pdfs/uksi_20082362_en.pdf
It should also have building regs approval. L1B 3.15 & 3.16 state when conservatories are exempt, ie this does not define what a conservatory is, just which conservatories are exempt. As far as I know to be a conservatory it needs 75% glazed roof and 50% glazed walls. Even if this rule has been redefined I can’t imagine an extension with three windows is ever going to be considered a conservatory.
I think the 2m that you refer to is a building regs issue, not planning. The building is made of timber so all the external walls are unprotected areas. If the flank wall is between 5.6sqm – 12 sqm (which it is) it must be 2m min from the boundary (Building Regs B4 Diagram 22)
It should also have building regs approval. L1B 3.15 & 3.16 state when conservatories are exempt, ie this does not define what a conservatory is, just which conservatories are exempt. As far as I know to be a conservatory it needs 75% glazed roof and 50% glazed walls. Even if this rule has been redefined I can’t imagine an extension with three windows is ever going to be considered a conservatory.
I think the 2m that you refer to is a building regs issue, not planning. The building is made of timber so all the external walls are unprotected areas. If the flank wall is between 5.6sqm – 12 sqm (which it is) it must be 2m min from the boundary (Building Regs B4 Diagram 22)
What you say is correct, but he needs to try to get it classed as a conservatory (difficult, I know) in which case the materials need not match so Planning would not be an issue.
Also, b/r would not then apply and no problem with unprotected areas.
The definition of a conservatory with respect to Building Regulations changed years ago, please read and digest: //www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=278544&start=0
That’s an interesting thread Freddy but I’m sure in practice its going to be difficult convincing a building inspector that a timber extension with a solid roof is a conservatory. It will be very interesting to see how Gazman16 gets on with the council.
Keep us posted Gazman
Keep us posted Gazman
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