can a socket back on to shower?

[pete01]

Plumbers should be more careful where they put there silly pipes.....lol.

 

[JohnD]

Plumbers should be more careful where they put there silly pipes.....lol.

Under sinks is sensible for pipes.

 

[pete01]

Under sinks is sensible for pipes.

Just a joke, never mind.

I have a twin socket under my sink and it's been fine.

 

[Murdochcat]

It's great to know you've never seen a pipe leak or a sink overflow.

Seen many thanks. None of which caused any electrical issues

 

[SJRSJR]

I think I'd add a drip-loop to the cable in the wall, it prevents water running down and into the socket.

Thanks, I like the idea of that but if the water pipe is directly above the socket (at knee level), isn't it going to hit the socket before it hits the drip loop?

 

[JohnD]

Thanks, I like the idea of that but if the water pipe is directly above the socket (at knee level), isn't it going to hit the socket before it hits the drip loop?

Yes, it might. But at least it won't run in from the cable.

 

[JohnW2]

Yes, it might. But at least it won't run in from the cable.

If it is arranged so that the cable enters from below the socket, that would never be a risk, anyway

 

[SJRSJR]

Thanks, I get it now

 

[securespark]

Maybe not, but that doesn't alter the fact that they're fairly common.

Furthermore, although it is a general truth that 'electricity and water don't mix well', I'mnot sure that there is any significant safety issue. For a start, all sockets should be RCD protected, and an RCD/RCBO would operate very quickly if significant amounts of water got into an accessory. However,even in the absence of RCD protection, I very much doubt that even an accessory 'filled up with water' would actually present a significant risk of a serious electric shock.

Nevertheless, I was perturbed to find an old live socket capped off with a JB just underneath a tile inside my ensuite shower that I found after 20 years of showering.....

 

[JohnW2]

Nevertheless, I was perturbed to find an old live socket capped off with a JB just underneath a tile inside my ensuite shower that I found after 20 years of showering.....

Maybe - but the "after 20 years of showering" has some relevance to the assessment of 'degree of risk'

 

[securespark]

I personally avoid putting accessories on the other side of showers. Just in case there is a leak. I like to over-engineer things......

 

[JohnW2]

I personally avoid putting accessories on the other side of showers. Just in case there is a leak. I like to over-engineer things......

Fair enough - but, particularly in these days of pretty ubiquitous RCDs, I'm not sure that one really needs to be too concerned about the (very small) risk of water getting into electrical accessories.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Fair enough - but, particularly in these days of pretty ubiquitous RCDs, I'm not sure that one really needs to be too concerned about the (very small) risk of water getting into electrical accessories.

Well, that takes care of the safety aspects, but as we all know, water and damp can cause nuisance tripping - and so sensible to avoid, wherever possible, that risk.

 

[JohnW2]

Well, that takes care of the safety aspects, but as we all know, water and damp can cause nuisance tripping - and so sensible to avoid, wherever possible, that risk.

Fair enough, even though I wouldn't call it 'nuisance tripping' if it happened legitimately in response to a water-mediated L-E fault.

... but, again, pragmatically speaking, it is actually extremely rare for water to leak into any (indoor) electrical accessory - so not ' a risk' I would loose much sleep over!

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Fair enough, even though I wouldn't call it 'nuisance tripping' if it happened legitimately in response to a water-mediated L-E fault.

It would be a nuisance, if your Christmas lights, or your microwave kept tripping, on Christmas Day

It would be even more of a nuisance, if the supply to your freezer tripped, whilst you were away for a few days. Hence, why mine are on an unprotected circuit, of their own.