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i was registered as plymouthfury before but left the site as i felt i had upset a few, ive since registered as plymouthfury58, and yes it was a plymouthfury 1958 christiner car, i did in actual fact once own the uk promo car used for the launch of the film many years back, my interests are mustangs 67 fastbacks, plymouth fury's and ducati 999 which i used to try and race, too many broken bones.
ive come back to the site as i see a few others have replied to this topic.
i got the distinct impression i was rubbing poeple up the wrong way, i understand red tape in this couintry and profeesional people are governed by rules and regs and dont want the responsibility of accidents on their hands.
what i was hoping for was a general discusion on how flues were built, i have some experience as mentioned before but didnt know how the internals of flues were made.
this seemed to upset a lot of people when asked, i dont see why it should as everything we buy is made by someone and therefore can be made by someone else in my opinion.
i once worked for a man who asked me to sort out the yard, i started clearing the yard of all what i thought was scrap, ( and it was ) but was rudely stopped in my tracks by the boss, he told me everything he had was concidered new and in a box on the shelf, i couldnt understand this but after working for him for a while and watched this man repair, design and make anything and everything he came accross or needed, i began to understand, all the scrap parts i was clearing did in actual fact become nice new products packaged nicely in a box on a shelf, or at least when he finished with them they were, taught me a big lesson that and since then i have viewed everything differntly, if it was made i can make it too.
hence asking about flues, i cannot see what the big fuss is about flues, it is as if its a forbidden topic.
as i said in previously my manufactures book states this boiler can use a horozontal flue, a low level flue, a high level flue, a full height balanced flue and a chimney flue, as some one else said before why do manufactures spec certain lengths of flue and bends etc.
my argument is, if my boiler can use all the above flues it cannot be effected by lenghts or amount of bends in the flue.
now from making exhausts for race teams it is good to have a system that is a straight as possible but not too sraight as presures may be needed to work in conjuction with engine spec, so i understand that a flue should be as straight as possible too or with minimal bends.
my boiler is a presure jet which by nature of the work presure means there must be a fan withint the unit, if there is a fan within the unit it tells me that the gases are going to be exiting the boiler from the forward presure the fan makes from the pj unit, it isnt a flue that relies on air draw, hence being able to use a varied amount of flues for my boiler.
i have all the drawings from the manufacture showing flue design and so i do not see why i cant make it myself.
someone said i could but it wouldnt be compliant, this i understand, im not looking for it to be certified, its not required for building regs, im simply moving my boiler and wont be using the original chimney.
a freind of mine is a heating engineer and can test for the correct gases and set up the pj to burn correctly, i will also be using monoxide testers, now once this is done and runing correctly within the spec of manufacture settings it would mean the flue would be working correclty.
other than not a product built by a company that has a stamp mark on it, i cannot see why this cannot be done, i do understand that there are persons that shouldnt be doing anything like this through lack of knowledge and perhaps this is where the rules and regs come in t protect people.
but if you coud see how dangerous rayburns, log fires, chimneys, boilers etc are here, you would have a fit, anything goes.
im an engineer not a muppet, i know whats right and whats wrong and if i dont know i ask and research.
thnaks to all that were seeing my side and thnaks to all that didnt see my side but were being safe.
i wasnt here to cause issues, i just wanted to understand.
plymouth fury 58
ive come back to the site as i see a few others have replied to this topic.
i got the distinct impression i was rubbing poeple up the wrong way, i understand red tape in this couintry and profeesional people are governed by rules and regs and dont want the responsibility of accidents on their hands.
what i was hoping for was a general discusion on how flues were built, i have some experience as mentioned before but didnt know how the internals of flues were made.
this seemed to upset a lot of people when asked, i dont see why it should as everything we buy is made by someone and therefore can be made by someone else in my opinion.
i once worked for a man who asked me to sort out the yard, i started clearing the yard of all what i thought was scrap, ( and it was ) but was rudely stopped in my tracks by the boss, he told me everything he had was concidered new and in a box on the shelf, i couldnt understand this but after working for him for a while and watched this man repair, design and make anything and everything he came accross or needed, i began to understand, all the scrap parts i was clearing did in actual fact become nice new products packaged nicely in a box on a shelf, or at least when he finished with them they were, taught me a big lesson that and since then i have viewed everything differntly, if it was made i can make it too.
hence asking about flues, i cannot see what the big fuss is about flues, it is as if its a forbidden topic.
as i said in previously my manufactures book states this boiler can use a horozontal flue, a low level flue, a high level flue, a full height balanced flue and a chimney flue, as some one else said before why do manufactures spec certain lengths of flue and bends etc.
my argument is, if my boiler can use all the above flues it cannot be effected by lenghts or amount of bends in the flue.
now from making exhausts for race teams it is good to have a system that is a straight as possible but not too sraight as presures may be needed to work in conjuction with engine spec, so i understand that a flue should be as straight as possible too or with minimal bends.
my boiler is a presure jet which by nature of the work presure means there must be a fan withint the unit, if there is a fan within the unit it tells me that the gases are going to be exiting the boiler from the forward presure the fan makes from the pj unit, it isnt a flue that relies on air draw, hence being able to use a varied amount of flues for my boiler.
i have all the drawings from the manufacture showing flue design and so i do not see why i cant make it myself.
someone said i could but it wouldnt be compliant, this i understand, im not looking for it to be certified, its not required for building regs, im simply moving my boiler and wont be using the original chimney.
a freind of mine is a heating engineer and can test for the correct gases and set up the pj to burn correctly, i will also be using monoxide testers, now once this is done and runing correctly within the spec of manufacture settings it would mean the flue would be working correclty.
other than not a product built by a company that has a stamp mark on it, i cannot see why this cannot be done, i do understand that there are persons that shouldnt be doing anything like this through lack of knowledge and perhaps this is where the rules and regs come in t protect people.
but if you coud see how dangerous rayburns, log fires, chimneys, boilers etc are here, you would have a fit, anything goes.
im an engineer not a muppet, i know whats right and whats wrong and if i dont know i ask and research.
thnaks to all that were seeing my side and thnaks to all that didnt see my side but were being safe.
i wasnt here to cause issues, i just wanted to understand.
plymouth fury 58
