Ceiling pendant wiring to floor lamp

[davebridge32]

Evening all... so Im installing a false ceiling on my landing as its very ugly artex at the minute. The Mrs likes the ide of getting rid of the current pendant ceiling light in favour of a landing floor lamp. Whilst Im sorting the ceiling, it seems an ideal opportunity to do this. My plan is to simply extend the current wiring being used for the ceiling pendant under the false ceiling and down some wall trunking to the floor lamp. In my simple mind, this would mean when you flick the existing wall switch on/off, instead of switching on/off the ceiling pendant, it would switch on/off the floor lamp. Is this do'able and any safety issues I would need to consider other than ensuring the connection between the existing ceiling pendant wiring and new wiring is safe and secure?

 

[Murdochcat]

2A or 5A socket on the lighting circuit and the appropriate plug fitted to the lamp?

 

[SUNRAY]

Evening all... so Im installing a false ceiling on my landing as its very ugly artex at the minute. The Mrs likes the ide of getting rid of the current pendant ceiling light in favour of a landing floor lamp. Whilst Im sorting the ceiling, it seems an ideal opportunity to do this. My plan is to simply extend the current wiring being used for the ceiling pendant under the false ceiling and down some wall trunking to the floor lamp. In my simple mind, this would mean when you flick the existing wall switch on/off, instead of switching on/off the ceiling pendant, it would switch on/off the floor lamp. Is this do'able and any safety issues I would need to consider other than ensuring the connection between the existing ceiling pendant wiring and new wiring is safe and secure?

In essence that is ok, however I'd say don't leave the ceiling rose within the false ceiling if it can be avoided. It would be better to pull the wiring up into the loft space (and possibly run the cable in the loft too) into a new junction box.

Take pictures of the existing ceiling rose and ensure you can identify the existing switched live which is regularly a black or blue wire.

2A or 5A socket on the lighting circuit and the appropriate plug fitted to the lamp?

and twin and earth cable to ensure the socket is correctly earthed even if the light doesn't require it.

 

[EFLImpudence]

It seems like a bad idea to remove the ceiling rose.

You can always have a floor lamp as well.

 

[SUNRAY]

It seems like a bad idea to remove the ceiling rose.

You can always have a floor lamp as well.

Are you suggesting it's left in service in an inaccessible void?

 

[EFLImpudence]

No. Fit it to your new ceiling so it is there when your wife changes her mind about the floor lamp.

 

[SUNRAY]

No. Fit it to your new ceiling so it is there when your wife changes her mind about the floor lamp.

I'm trying to understand the logic of extending wiring, either in the loft from any style of junction box or maintenance free in the suspended ceiling void, to fit a rose to spoil the look of a virginal new ceiling.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Oh. I was thinking it was the OP replying to my suggestion. No matter.

Do you have a standard lamp as the lighting on your landing?

 

[DetlefSchmitz]

Better still might be a prewired junction box sitting on top of the new plasterboard at a measured location. Just in case.

 

[Sureitsoff?]

As Sunday suggests swop the ceiling rose for a junc box in the loft then when your wife decides a ceiling light might be nice again just take a feed from the junc box to new light

 

[SUNRAY]

As Sunday suggests swop the ceiling rose for a junc box in the loft then when your wife decides a ceiling light might be nice again just take a feed from the junc box to new light

Ahhh a logical answer.

 

[SUNRAY]

Oh. I was thinking it was the OP replying to my suggestion. No matter.

Do you have a standard lamp as the lighting on your landing?

No but my landing doesn't have the space to do so. I've been in plenty of hotels in elderly (and possibly listed) buildings with table lamps or standard lamps as the only or main illumination.

 

[ericmark]

I know my parent's house had wall lights, but floor lights, not sure how they would work? I have a high socket on my landing with a rechargeable torch, which has motion sensor, and auto lights with power cut, but can't see how floor lights would work, seen them in a dance hall in Chester in the late 60s early 70s, but they were as well not instead, and personally I like carpet on the floor, OK google shows

so above carpet, would have thought a trip hazard? See the point on a patio where there is nothing to mount wall or ceiling lights onto, but that is a lot of wiring.

It can be done, and would be a talking point, and would ensure floors kept clear, no laundry baskets on that floor. As an addition to ceiling lights, OK, but to me just too easy to cover.

 

[SUNRAY]

I know my parent's house had wall lights, but floor lights, not sure how they would work? I have a high socket on my landing with a rechargeable torch, which has motion sensor, and auto lights with power cut, but can't see how floor lights would work, seen them in a dance hall in Chester in the late 60s early 70s, but they were as well not instead, and personally I like carpet on the floor, OK google shows View attachment 362831 so above carpet, would have thought a trip hazard? See the point on a patio where there is nothing to mount wall or ceiling lights onto, but that is a lot of wiring.

It can be done, and would be a talking point, and would ensure floors kept clear, no laundry baskets on that floor. As an addition to ceiling lights, OK, but to me just too easy to cover.

And difficult to walk around without being blinded while looking where your'e walking.

We had a hotel room with such uplighters in a plinth about 40mm above carpet level, quite honestly they were aweful as a fairly wide beam angle. The horrible downlighters creating vast shadows compounded by not being able to look down do simple things like put shoes on or pick up a bag.