Consumer unit quotes

[Murdochcat]

Maximum? Minimum might be more accurate.

I wouldn't get much more that that and thats in "wealthy" Surrey and the OP is in the North East

 

[blup]

No they don't as insurance is on an all risks basis..some may ask for one to lower a premium but they are never required as proof of maintenance, that's just trade misinformation.

Fair point, but house insurance policies have general clauses about overall Maintenance being kept up, and this would be evidence of that process afaik

 

[martygturner]

Fair point, but house insurance policies have general clauses about overall Maintenance being kept up, and this would be evidence of that process afaik

What exactly is the definition of maintenance ??? The thing insures want is to see if the homeowner is claiming for observable damage, ie rodents or claiming for a water ingress from a blocked gutter thats been going on for a few years, its stuff that is visible, electrics are not.

 

[Risteard]

I wouldn't get much more that that and thats in "wealthy" Surrey and the OP is in the North East

Fair enough, but I thought the market had moved beyond that. Out of interest, how many circuits are you allowing for at that price?

 

[blup]

What exactly is the definition of maintenance ??? The thing insures want is to see if the homeowner is claiming for observable damage, ie rodents or claiming for a water ingress from a blocked gutter thats been going on for a few years, its stuff that is visible, electrics are not.

Dunno, a typic eirc won’t cover all parts of the installation but will be evidence of any works identified as necessary or desirable

 

[Collectors]

Remember RCBO's are the best way to go as if one trips its only that circuit. But a normal 12 way board with 2 RCD main switches + 12 fuses is around £70-£80 with fuses. If you want RCBO's add around £200, So £280.00 + sundries @ £100 = £380.00 + a fair £500 labour for 1 days work £880.00 + possible Vat =£1080.00. So, he is not far off.

 

[ericmark]

What exactly is the definition of maintenance ?

Where I worked maintenance required all screw terminals torqued up, an EICR is only inspection and testing, there is no maintenance as such. On a batching plant in a steel frame as it was portable equipment, yes screws could work loose, but in domestic the whole idea of maintenance free seems a bit off, as we never do any maintenance or service where ever the cable joints are.

It was so clear I needed a new consumer unit, did that before any EICR even started. I suppose now been here 5 years, so need to do another one, I will when my new loop impedance and RCD tester arrives, but would be surprised to find defects.

I have wondered how far back one can go? Parents house built 1954, 13th Edition did allow no earth to lighting fittings using filament lamps installed in a room having a non-conducting floor, mounted at such a height that they cannot readily be touched and are out of reach of earthed metal. This clearly was not the case with wall lights in the hall, but 13th came out in 1955, and I don't have a copy of the 12th edition, but seems likely the same rules. OK now rewired, but could I have got the builders back to correct the wiring?

OK being silly at 50 years, from point wired to when I found it was wrong, but how long is reasonable, if the IET says domestic EICR every 10 years, then faults less than 10 years old, it would seem reasonable to expect a tradesman to correct, not sure his insurance would agree.

As to missed faults with an EICR, who pays? The commercial EICR I did were for approx ½ the installation unless faults found, only if faults found would all items be inspected, but this should be declared on the paperwork, if 100% then seems reasonable if faults found after the EICR it would seem reasonable that a claim made from the inspector. However the court case in South Wales where the inspector was found not to have done his job, he got fined, but the report did not say he paid out anything to the home owner.

I was rather surprised it even went to court, as the person he had the contract with, had not complained, it was the new owner who complained.

 

[Murdochcat]

Remember RCBO's are the best way to go as if one trips its only that circuit. But a normal 12 way board with 2 RCD main switches + 12 fuses is around £70-£80 with fuses. If you want RCBO's add around £200, So £280.00 + sundries @ £100 = £380.00 + a fair £500 labour for 1 days work £880.00 + possible Vat =£1080.00. So, he is not far off.

£500 for a days work - really ?

The op is outside Newcastle so I suspect the day rate is far lower

 

[EFLImpudence]

But a normal 12 way board with 2 RCD main switches + 12 fuses is around £70-£80 with fuses.

 

[Murdochcat]

Fair enough, but I thought the market had moved beyond that. Out of interest, how many circuits are you allowing for at that price?

10

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Where I worked maintenance required all screw terminals torqued up, an EICR is only inspection and testing, there is no maintenance as such. On a batching plant in a steel frame as it was portable equipment, yes screws could work loose, but in domestic the whole idea of maintenance free seems a bit off, as we never do any maintenance or service where ever the cable joints are.

I installed a new CU, a while ago, it was always my intention to revisit my install, and re torque the terminals. So far as the EICR is concerned, I constantly check and inspect my electrical installation, plumbing, gas, and the house generally, I even occasionally get the test gear out, and make use of that.

I have wondered how far back one can go? Parents house built 1954, 13th Edition did allow no earth to lighting fittings using filament lamps installed in a room having a non-conducting floor, mounted at such a height that they cannot readily be touched and are out of reach of earthed metal. This clearly was not the case with wall lights in the hall, but 13th came out in 1955, and I don't have a copy of the 12th edition, but seems likely the same rules. OK now rewired, but could I have got the builders back to correct the wiring?

My view is that providing it met the regs when installed, it's fine, but subject to deterioration.

 

[ebee]

My view is that providing it met the regs when installed, it's fine, but subject to deterioration.

So an installation that has no earthing of lights, no RCDs and no main bonding because it was installed prior to bonding being a requirement at the time it was installed would attract a different set of codes for an installation that is is only 1 week old but the wiring and everything else is done to the same standards as the first one ???

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

So an installation that has no earthing of lights, no RCDs and no main bonding because it was installed prior to bonding being a requirement at the time it was installed would attract a different set of codes for an installation that is is only 1 week old but the wiring and everything else is done to the same standards as the first one ???

No, but the regulations do not apply retrospectively.