Corner beads

[roy c]

I would have to discuss this subject over a pint with you mate.....

 

[NickB_99]

Sorry to interrupt the debate, but I still have a question on the guide - now confused!

just tap the "thin, small-headed pin/nail" into the end of the "ply",,, where it suits the inside edge of the window frame you'll work/guide it from,,,,, to get the reveal bonding plaster square.....Running the window-gauge/nail up the window frame is the only thing you need to be careful with......

Say for example, I had a guide about 6" x 2" and 12mm thick. I'm assuming the nail is put part way in to the end face (at the centre point of the end face - say 1" by 6mm from a corner and parallel to the long edge) ?
I'd then put the 2" face flat on top of the bead edge ready to slide it (prob up).
But I am unsure about what the nail in the other end guides against.

The pvc window frame is smooth, about 40mm deep before the slope for the glass. To gauge approx 10mm depth of bonding there is nothing to maintain the depth of the bonding. Or does the nail just allow it slide against the frame with minimum contact, and the bonding depth is judgement based on pressure applied at that end?

 

[roughcaster]

The 6"x2"x 12mm gauge is only an example...............The flat 2" face of the gauge would face upwards, it would only be the 12mm edge that would touch the plaster........ the nail would be put into the end of the piece of wood, in a measured position, where it would overlap onto the square plastic edge of your window frame as a guide. The sticking out nail, overlapping onto the inside plastic edge of the window frame, will stop the gauge from digging in...You don't need to apply any pressure.... The bead on the reveal corner,, and the nail overlapping onto the guiding edge or your window frame, will allow the gauge to be dragged over the wet plaster reveal, removing any excess, giving you an even coat of plaster, any hollows can be filled in,, then run the gauge over the plaster again, and so on until it is filled out. Put tape over the nail though....You'll find it so easy to do once you understand it. This is where a sketch page would be invaluable..

Roughcaster.

 

[jbonding]

The 6"x2"x 12mm gauge is only an example...............The flat 2" face of the gauge would face upwards, it would only be the 12mm edge that would touch the plaster........ the nail would be put into the end of the piece of wood, in a measured position, where it would overlap onto the square plastic edge of your window frame as a guide. The sticking out nail, overlapping onto the inside plastic edge of the window frame, will stop the gauge from digging in...You don't need to apply any pressure.... The bead on the reveal corner,, and the nail overlapping onto the guiding edge or your window frame, will allow the gauge to be dragged over the wet plaster reveal, removing any excess, giving you an even coat of plaster, any hollows can be filled in,, then run the gauge over the plaster again, and so on until it is filled out. Put tape over the nail though....You'll find it so easy to do once you understand it. This is where a sketch page would be invaluable..




Roughcaster.

or a plasterboard and some drywall adhesive...........

 

[NickB_99]

The 6"x2"x 12mm gauge is only an example...............The flat 2" face of the gauge would face upwards, it would only be the 12mm edge that would touch the plaster........ the nail would be put into the end of the piece of wood, in a measured position, where it would overlap onto the square plastic edge of your window frame as a guide. The sticking out nail, overlapping onto the inside plastic edge of the window frame, will stop the gauge from digging in...You don't need to apply any pressure.... The bead on the reveal corner,, and the nail overlapping onto the guiding edge or your window frame, will allow the gauge to be dragged over the wet plaster reveal, removing any excess, giving you an even coat of plaster, any hollows can be filled in,, then run the gauge over the plaster again, and so on until it is filled out. Put tape over the nail though....You'll find it so easy to do once you understand it. This is where a sketch page would be invaluable..

Roughcaster.

Yes, a sketch would have made life easier, but the penny has now dropped and know what you mean.

Thanks for the input JB also - will give the tradiational way a chance (as quite fancy the learning experience!)
Though if I make a pigs ear of this one with the traditional approach, I can always re-consider for next time!
(sorry Roughcaster!)

 

[roughcaster]

Boooooooo Hoooooooooo , you've started me off again.. Anyway Newbee99, glad you got the idea,,,, I was running out of ways to explain it.

Roughcaster

 

[marshman]

you're not done yet RC, what about the little bit at the bottom of the reveal that the gauge won't touch because the bottom edge of the
frame is in the way of the nail ?






I'm glad I'm out of arm's reach

 

[roughcaster]

And the little bit at the top too Marshy. He'll just have to trim that out for himself... (Clue) cut them off squarely and neatly with the corner heel or the corner toe of the trowel. Wash the window/door frame down with a small brush as you go.

Roughcaster.

 

[marshman]

o' r' I'd forgotten he is going to chop the rest of the reveal off.

 

[roughcaster]

o' r' I'd forgotten he is going to chop the rest of the reveal off.

Ahhh, see,,,,,,yes,,, he's going to have a go at real plastering... I found it difficult to put into words how to make and use a reveal gauge. Easy to make, easy to use, but difficult to explain to someone who has never heard of one,,, and it's use. but he's got it now..I hope.

Roughcaster.

 

[marshman]

I thought you done well on that one.

I know just what you mean, sometimes it would be easier to drive there and show people than putting it in to words.
would you like to try the six stages ? it just something you know from experience but how can you put that in to words.

 

[roughcaster]

I thought you done well on that one.

I know just what you mean, sometimes it would be easier to drive there and show people than putting it in to words.

would you like to try the six stages ? it just something you know from experience but how can you put that in to words.

Again, very difficult to put into words,, "six stages",,, and that's only for putting on a skim. Don't even mention full "float and set".

Roughcaster.

 

[jbonding]

The 6"x2"x 12mm gauge is only an example...............The flat 2" face of the gauge would face upwards, it would only be the 12mm edge that would touch the plaster........ the nail would be put into the end of the piece of wood, in a measured position, where it would overlap onto the square plastic edge of your window frame as a guide. The sticking out nail, overlapping onto the inside plastic edge of the window frame, will stop the gauge from digging in...You don't need to apply any pressure.... The bead on the reveal corner,, and the nail overlapping onto the guiding edge or your window frame, will allow the gauge to be dragged over the wet plaster reveal, removing any excess, giving you an even coat of plaster, any hollows can be filled in,, then run the gauge over the plaster again, and so on until it is filled out. Put tape over the nail though....You'll find it so easy to do once you understand it. This is where a sketch page would be invaluable..

Roughcaster.

Very difficult to explain, i read this then read it again then again and ive gone from knowing how to do to not having a clue......

 

[roughcaster]

DIYnewbee99 wrote,
""""The penny has now dropped, and I know what you mean""".

Yesssss,,, result........JB, I'm sorry mate,,,i've confused you.... get DIYnewbee99 to explain the reveal gauge to you, and refresh your memory,,,, he knows all about it now....... Me,,,, I'm much too busy with another post just now,,,,,, trying to explain the benefit/s of using a laser in brain surgery.

Roughcaster.

 

[marshman]

get DIYnewbee99 to explain the reveal gauge to you, and refresh your memory,,,, he knows all about it now.......
Roughcaster.

crying with laughter here.