Cyclist killed - natural selection at work

Ban cyclists? The healthier, safer, more efficient, less damaging to the road and environment and overall cheaper alternative for something that is the exact opposite? Cycling should be encouraged. Driving discouraged.

Hmmm I bet you don't work 25 miles away from your home then?
Cyclists should be trained first then bloody educated , then educated some more. At best they are a nuisance, at worst, they are a menace.
 
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No it doesn't. We've got a two lane ring road that is unusable in the left lane because you get a dopey cyclist every so often - so all the car have to cram in the right lane, hence overcrowding and more exhaust.

Ban bikes and give cars both lanes.
 
Am constantly slowing because of other drivers, hardly see a cyclist most days, how often do you have to slow because of cyclists?
 
I wish I had a fiver for every cyclist who's cycled up on the nearside of my car, whilst I've been waiting at traffic lights with a left hand indicator on.

Yup, do it all the time.

Always ready with my middle finger for the few that beep at me, LOVE IT :evil:

Then of course the light changes and I am several meters ahead before they even get going, so quite why they get so annoyed baffles me, but whatever I like ****ing them off.


I agree with the concept of compulsory training

Why, you think anyone who jumps red lights doesn't know they are not supposed to, pffffffttt.

But of course this is modern england, where everyone thinks everything has to be regulated and licensed regardless.

I don't know why we bothered joining the EU, we are quit competent at creating our own reams of red tape and bureaucrats.

and perhaps some contribution from cyclists towards road safety features (eg cycle lanes etc)

It's called council tax, vat, income tax, road tax (how many cyclists don't also own cars).

No no, silly me, again this is modern England, where "Tax it" is the modern method of "fixing" things.

I mean look at how the high tax rate has given us high quality roads with no pot-holes.....

I wonder just how many cyclists have actually bothered to read the highway code?

Probably most of them.
 
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Ban cyclists? The healthier, safer, more efficient, less damaging to the road and environment and overall cheaper alternative for something that is the exact opposite? Cycling should be encouraged. Driving discouraged.

Hmmm I bet you don't work 25 miles away from your home then?
Cyclists should be trained first then bloody educated , then educated some more. At best they are a nuisance, at worst, they are a menace.

I am not banning cars, just discouraging them for people making short journeys. 25 miles to work? I'll let you use your car for that.
 
Whenever you see one? Well done. Good driver award, my point is, there isn't that many. If there aere on your commute then you are driving in the cycle lane.
 
That's what I say - let them pay road tax and use it for cycle lanes - and make it illegal not to use it if it is there.

The reason there aren't that many is that they eventually learn that being knocked into the gutter isn't good for their health. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
Well if cyclists had any brains they wouldn't keep finding themselves permanently disabled or smeared all over the road. Who in their right mind puts themselves in serious danger? only someone who has no idea what the danger is. That's the only explanation for cyclists who come up along the inside of 12 ton vehicles at the traffic lights.

That's why training and licencing is the answer. Only reason it hasn't happened yet is the government want to encourage people to bike it, not put barriers in the way, though it's not a great advert when its so frequently fatal or disfiguring.

If cyclists had a good, working, understanding of the highway code they would be a pleasure to travel alongside on the commute.
 
Yup, do it all the time.

Always ready with my middle finger for the few that beep at me, LOVE IT

Unitl the one time your not as quick off the mark and end up under a set of car/lorry wheels. ;) ;)

It's called council tax, vat, income tax, road tax (how many cyclists don't also own cars).

France tax cyclists and make them have insurance. ;)

I wonder just how many cyclists have actually bothered to read the highway code?


Probably most of them.

Well, if you (by your own admission) are prepared to undertake vehicles which have a left hand indicator on,, then I very much doubt that you've even bothered to read the Highway Code. ( I bet you even overtake vehicles which are turning right. ) ;)
 
I don't care if cycle helmets become compulsory or not - if they want to end up dead that's their look out.

But I would say that a clearly visible registration number (maybe on a velcro patch with a high viz background) and third party insurance definitely SHOULD be compulsory for cyclists using the public highways.

Surely no law abiding cyclist could complain at that, and the lyca louts who run red lights and deliberately damage cars could be introduced to the concept of there being consequences for breaking the rules.
 
cajar said:
That's why training and licencing is the answer

There were 1,900 people killed and 24,430 killed or seriously injured (KSI), in reported road accidents in the year ending September 2011

http://www.dft.gov.uk/statistics/releases/road-accidents-and-safety-quarterly-estimates-q3-2011/

WOW!

We must immidiatly ensure that every driver has to have some kind of competency test and license, it's the only way to stop these accidents happening.

You are a silly sausage.

Unitl the one time your not as quick off the mark and end up under a set of car/lorry wheels. ;) ;)

Actually I am very carefull, the only accidents I ever have at junctions are when the driver overtakes me, and turns (no not after I have over-taken them).

But wait, I must be lying, drivers don't make mistakes or take silly risks, they all have training and are licenesed? ;)

It's called council tax, vat, income tax, road tax (how many cyclists don't also own cars).

France tax cyclists and make them have insurance. ;)

1. link please.

2. Evidence this tax has in any way improved road accident incidences or roads.

For a nation that keeps moaning about high taxes, we brits sure love asking for anything "we" don't like to be taxed.


Well, if you (by your own admission) are prepared to undertake vehicles which have a left hand indicator on,, then I very much doubt that you've even bothered to read the Highway Code.

I know what the highway code says, I ignore it and use the common sense code.

Y'see cycles dont have number plates.

So when you have to sit at a red light, with no oncoming traffic, or a pedestrian crossing, with no pedestrians.

I don't.

Sucks to be you.

But of course as a typicel brit, instead of making it OK to go through a red light, when there is clealy no obsticles, you would rather regulat, tax, licence and enforce.

Next time you complain about how the government keeps sticking it's nose in your life, telling you what you should eat, how much you should excersice, how much you should pay for goods, remember it's your own fault for making them interfere with everything in the first place.
 
...I know what the highway code says, I ignore it...

...So when you have to sit at a red light, with no oncoming traffic, or a pedestrian crossing, with no pedestrians.

I don't...

I find myself increasingly drawn to the idea of a registration number and fines for cyclists. Perhaps they could be banned too.

Of course Aaron is probably a taxi driver who is trolling to build up anti-bike feeling
 
Of course Aaron is probably a taxi driver who is trolling to build up anti-bike feeling

I think he is a rich, successful, highly knowledgeable, superfit and very tough guy.
 
i agree whth the wearing helmets on cycles,it can save lives.

if your road tax cycling you will put people off cycling overnight.

i ride a cycles. its pure freedom, its nice along the country lanes,watching the views,listing to the birds, then zooooooomm car passes at 50 mph.
you can see how ugly and unnatural it is when you see some one sit in a machine passing you by like a maniac.

i also have been on big bikes and cars, i even admit of getting frustrated
when a cyclist slows you down,but thats more about my selfishness ,than the cyclist .
 
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