Deal or no deal

[Bodd]

I want a deal. I never wanted to be in the place we are now. But to begin with I wanted to remain, but the EU would not give David an Inch.



So my question is do you give Boris your Blessing to come back with NO Deal.

 

[JohnD]

the EU would not give David an Inch

you are misremembering.

What do you think he asked for that was rejected?

 

[Bodd]

you are misremembering.

What do you think he asked for that was rejected?

Its a simple question John...... just click the bottom one

 

[JohnD]

the EU would not give David an Inch.

not an inch?

"What he wanted: A key demand of the Prime Minister going into the negotiations was that Britain should be excluded from the declaration in EU treaties that commits member states to “ever closer union among the peoples of Europe”.

Did he get it? Yes. The language in the agreement is emphatic. "It is recognised that the United Kingdom is not committed to further political integration in the European Union," it says. "References to ever-closer union do not apply to the United Kingdom." In particular Cameron won confirmation from other EU leaders that this 'special status' will be enshrined in the next EU treaties – accepting once and for all the reality of a two speed European Union.

Win rating 5/5"

 

[JohnD]

the EU would not give David an Inch.

Not an inch?

"Benefits
What he wanted: Going into the original negotiations David Cameron wanted Britain to able to impose a ban on paying in-work benefits to any EU migrant coming to the UK. He also put forward a plan that would allow the UK to stop paying child benefit to the children of migrants who were not living in the UK.

What he got: These demands were never going to fly in Brussels because they violated the principle that all EU workers should treated equally across the union. But what he did get was a complicated (and rather ingenious) idea of an emergency brake where a member state could apply to the Commission for permission to suspend benefit payments if they were placing too much burden on the social services of a member state. Conveniently the Commission confirmed Britain would be eligible for this before the talks even started. The haggling over the last 24 hours was over how long this break should last for. Cameron initially called for the emergency brake in place for 13 years, but the Visegrád group of four central European countries (Poland, Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic) arrived at the summit with a starting bid of five years. In the end the Council settled on seven - a compromise the British will not be unhappy with."

 

[JohnD]

the EU would not give David an Inch.

Not an inch?

"Protection from further Eurozone integration
What he wanted: Key to British demands were new rules to protect countries outside the Eurozone against regulation made by those inside the group that could disadvantage them. Specifically, he wanted any non-Eurozone country to be able to stall new regulations for the currency union, by triggering further discussions among EU leaders of the proposals. This was principally designed to protect the City from an attempt by the Eurozone to challenge its dominance as Europe's main financial centre.

What he got: In a surprising win for Cameron, only one euro ‘outer’ will be needed to force a debate among EU leaders about ‘problem’ Eurozone laws. Other EU leaders agreed to this because neither the UK, nor any other country, would have an absolute veto. These protections, however, will also be written into EU treaties, so Britain could if it needed to challenge a decision in the European Court if it feels that it is discriminatory - again a key demand of the Prime Minister.

Win rating: 4/5"

 

[JohnD]

Does the UK have the right to send home people who come here from the EU and are unable to find work?

Yes.

Does it bother?

No.

Does it have the right to send home people from the EU who are a drain on the public purse?

Yes.

Does it bother?

No.

Has the UK been forced to adopt the Euro?

No.

 

[mitch66]

Its a simple question John...... just click the bottom one

You set him off again...you knew the risk LOL

 

[JohnD]

You set him off again...you knew the risk LOL

when Bodd makes claims that are untrue he should expect to be challenged.

the EU would not give David an Inch.

Not true, Bodd.

 

[Bodd]

John when given a vote I was asked Yes or No or was it In or Out....... What ever I voted Out...
Now Im a plumber I know nothing about the ins and outs so;

Over to you Mr Cameron....... Go get em....... I'll look after the plumbing while your gone.......

 

[charliegolf]

I give Boris my blessing not to come back at all!

 

[JohnD]

I know nothing about the ins and outs

and yet you somehow formed the erroneous opinion that

the EU would not give David an Inch.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Woops! Own goal there Bodd.

If only there weren't so many others in the same position.

 

[Bodd]

I give Boris my blessing not to come back at all!

I know what your going to say........ Im obsessed with Boris.....

The bottom Button....

 

[Bodd]

Woops! Own goal there Bodd.

If only there weren't so many others in the same position.

The Bottom Button....