Dishwasher Install

[SeventiesBeachHouse]

Just moved into my first house! We are desperate for a dishwasher. I've found 47cm of space next to my washing machine for a slimline dishwasher.

There is a socket supplying the washing machine in the cupboard which I want to remove to make way for the dishwasher. The socket seems to be surface mounted to the cupboard. Once I remove the cupboard what should I do to move the socket and supply the dishwasher?

I've attached photos

Any help or advice really appreciated!

 

[sparkwright]

You may have to move the socket into the other cupboard left of the washing machine.

You may be able to make the socket into a double.

Is the socket controlled by an isolator or switched fused spur above the worktop or somewhere?

There are theories about supplying two heavy loads from a double socket.

That said, I think it was decided that a double socket made by MK could carry two 13A loads with no trouble.

Depending on your wiring, it may be possible to have two single sockets, but more info would be needed first to make a decision on this idea.

 

[chivers67]

The socket will need removing and you'll need to chase/cut out for a metal back box into the wall.

The power / isolator switch serving the washing machine & dishwasher should be accessible & you'll probably have to fit them above counter. It really depends how the cable to that socket runs and whether it's part of the ring or just a Spur?

 

[SeventiesBeachHouse]

You may have to move the socket into the other cupboard left of the washing machine.

You may be able to make the socket into a double.

Is the socket controlled by an isolator or switched fused spur above the worktop or somewhere?

No, they (previous owner) has only installed that socket. There is no spur. I know a spur with an isolation switch for both appliances would be the correct installation. However, we intend to remove the kitchen and move the kitchen to another room in the next few years. Would it be acceptable to just move the socket and convert to a double socket?

 

[sparkwright]

I would say that would be ok, as said an MK one supposedly is good for 26 amps, ie two appliances.

The next question is though, is the cable long enough to do this, and if not, how would you correctly extend it??

 

[Taylortwocities]

The socket will need removing and you'll need to chase/cut out for a metal back box into the wall.

Where did you plan for this socket to be located?
To the side of the dishwasher - impossible
At the rear of the dishwasher - not practical as you would only be able to access it by pulling out the whole appliance.

I would suggest that the power for both the washing machine and the D/W should be sited under the sink.

Need to see where the power to that single socket originates from..

 

[EFLImpudence]

The power / isolator switch serving the washing machine & dishwasher should be accessible

There is no requirement for such local isolation for appliances therefore its position is irrelevant.

It is, however, a good idea.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

There is no requirement for such local isolation for appliances therefore its position is irrelevant.

If the terminals use screws it must be accessible.

 

[Iggifer]

I would never have guessed it was a previous-owner DIY job with that butchery on the cupboard back. Good god!

Be sure to add a brace to the underside of the worktop/wall once you remove that carcass, it may not be very well fixed (anymore)!

 

[EFLImpudence]

There is no requirement for such local isolation for appliances therefore its position is irrelevant.

If the terminals use screws it must be accessible.

Oh yes, I was not suggesting it could be under the floorboards but responding to "The power / isolator switch serving the washing machine & dishwasher should be accessible & you'll probably have to fit them above counter".

 

[deadshort]

l would move the WM to the right and put the DW on the left next to the sink. Re-route the socket wiring to cupboard under the sink and change it to a double MK one. If it's a short term solution.

Regards,

DS

 

[flameport]

I've found 47cm of space next to my washing machine for a slimline dishwasher.

Is that measurement taking account of the skirting board and the pipe attached to it? The cupboard base has been cut to accommodate them.

 

[SeventiesBeachHouse]

Thank you everyone for the help and input! I really appreciate it. Just what I needed. You're all really kind.

On with the job.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Dishwashers typically require a dedicated circuit.

Not here in the UK they dont!

 

[Mottie]

It sounds like you've got a good plan in place! Once you remove the cupboard, here's what you can generally expect

1. Safety First: Before you do anything, turn off the power to that socket at your electrical panel (breaker box).Double-check it's off with a non-contact voltage tester.
2. Assess the Situation: Once the cupboard is gone, you'll see how the socket is wired. It might be a simple spur connection coming from another nearby socket, or it could be wired directly back to the electrical panel. Take a few photos for reference if you're unsure.
3. Options for the Socket:
   • Relocate: If the wiring allows, and it's easy to access, you might be able to move the existing socket to a more convenient location for the dishwasher.
   • Replace: You could replace the surface-mounted socket with a recessed one, which would be installed inside the wall for a cleaner look.
   • Remove: If the socket won't be used for anything else, you could remove it entirely. Make sure the wires are capped off safely and tucked away in a junction box.
4. Dishwasher Connection: Dishwashers typically require a dedicated circuit. If the existing socket is on a shared circuit, it's best to have an electrician run a new, dedicated circuit for the dishwasher. They can also handle the socket relocation or removal for you if you're not comfortable with electrical work.

This thread is over 8 years old now. I doubt the OP is still pondering what to do….