Dodgy Sue

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Makes you wonder who the Civil Service will leak against next, can't be many 'leave' supporting ministers left.
I don’t mind that she was caught speeding, there but for the grace etc, or that she wanted her own course. It was the way she saw the civil service as her personal servants on what was clearly a non ministerial matter. And then the response is to continue the conspiracy theory about the civil service. One one of the worst things about this government, policy aside, is that the Ministers are so incompetent on so many levels.

Blup
 
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Lets have a quick look at what speed awareness etc is..

The ACPO National Driver Offender Retraining Schemes is a business division of the Police that was created under the Governments' Strategic Framework for Road Safety 2011. It came at a time when Speed cameras were spiralling, revenues/investment were a massive industry and the Government had to do something to restore confidence in Speed Limit enforcement. Officers were increasingly reporting a lack of cooperation with more serious matters, due to speed enforcement policy. The Police need the support and consent of the public to do their job.

Labour had corrected its pyramid funding mistake of camera revenue, going on more cameras, in response to growing outrage. The NDORS scheme was a way of appeasing the public while still allowing Police to generate an income from speeding, an income they had become dependant on under the camera partnership which had been killed off.

The Police always have and are encouraged to use discretion when appropriate for the enforcement of all laws. There is no legislation that exists which creates a legal Framework for "Speed Awareness". It is their guidelines for discretion that allow for this.

There is nothing in law that prevents a private course being arranged. There is also nothing in law that prevents protection if you attend. Though in most cases the offence would have timed out.

No legislation preventing someone from attending a private Speed Awareness course - she absolutely could have done this. Its likely she asked the wrong person.

There is a well known trick to avoid doing the course and the points and she could have, but chose not to use it. She could have booked on to the course and then failed to turn up, giving the police no time to present the prosecution within the time limit.
 
There is a well known trick to avoid doing the course and the points and she could have, but chose not to use it. She could have booked on to the course and then failed to turn up, giving the police no time to present the prosecution within the time limit.
That's worth knowing! WHat's the time limit?

When I did one, the man running things said that if anyone produced a phone they'd be kicked out and could get prosecuted. He was fibbing, then, since the courses are months apart....
 
I don’t mind that she was caught speeding, there but for the grace etc, or that she wanted her own course. It was the way she saw the civil service as her personal servants on what was clearly a non ministerial matter. And then the response is to continue the conspiracy theory about the civil service. One one of the worst things about this government, policy aside, is that the Ministers are so incompetent on so many levels.

Blup

If ministers were competent then they would actually have to resolve issues rather than dress them up or kick them down the road, the Tories are in it for themselves with their venal behaviour. What they have done is demonised and demoralised the workforce to a point where the only ones left seem to be their sycophants.

If the Tories were more grown up and didnt enter in culture wars to distract and actually did the boring but important business of running the country and not crippling it I could support them but they seem to be wedded to an idea of Britain in the past and all that it needs for it to be realised is to suspend reality which many of the Tory bots on here do. Brexit benefits are always just around the corner.
 
Lets have a quick look at what speed awareness etc is..

The ACPO National Driver Offender Retraining Schemes is a business division of the Police that was created under the Governments' Strategic Framework for Road Safety 2011. It came at a time when Speed cameras were spiralling, revenues/investment were a massive industry and the Government had to do something to restore confidence in Speed Limit enforcement. Officers were increasingly reporting a lack of cooperation with more serious matters, due to speed enforcement policy. The Police need the support and consent of the public to do their job.

Labour had corrected its pyramid funding mistake of camera revenue, going on more cameras, in response to growing outrage. The NDORS scheme was a way of appeasing the public while still allowing Police to generate an income from speeding, an income they had become dependant on under the camera partnership which had been killed off.

The Police always have and are encouraged to use discretion when appropriate for the enforcement of all laws. There is no legislation that exists which creates a legal Framework for "Speed Awareness". It is their guidelines for discretion that allow for this.

There is nothing in law that prevents a private course being arranged. There is also nothing in law that prevents protection if you attend. Though in most cases the offence would have timed out.

No legislation preventing someone from attending a private Speed Awareness course - she absolutely could have done this. Its likely she asked the wrong person.

There is a well known trick to avoid doing the course and the points and she could have, but chose not to use it. She could have booked on to the course and then failed to turn up, giving the police no time to present the prosecution within the time limit.

So your response is use a loophole - about par the course for Tories who demonise poor people claiming benefits but espouse everyone to use every loophole possible.

Upstanding character.
 
So your response is use a loophole - about par the course for Tories who demonise poor people claiming benefits but espouse everyone to use every loophole possible.

Upstanding character.
How does that work, if they're espousing everyone to use every loophole possible, why would they demonize people using loopholes claiming benefits?
Think they misjudge the public if they think they can get dodgy Sue on this. I l think the public have long given up on what constitutes 'fairness' on sentencing of criminals and what they get away with and have a degree of sympathy with her.
 

She really cannot stop herself.

Suella Braverman tried to get out of the final Commons vote on the government’s small boats bill despite Conservative MPs being instructed to attend, the Guardian has learned.
 
How does that work, if they're espousing everyone to use every loophole possible, why would they demonize people using loopholes claiming benefits?
Have you ever read a front page of the Daily Express?
 
Lets have a quick look at what speed awareness etc is..

The ACPO National Driver Offender Retraining Schemes is a business division of the Police that was created under the Governments' Strategic Framework for Road Safety 2011. It came at a time when Speed cameras were spiralling, revenues/investment were a massive industry and the Government had to do something to restore confidence in Speed Limit enforcement. Officers were increasingly reporting a lack of cooperation with more serious matters, due to speed enforcement policy. The Police need the support and consent of the public to do their job.

Labour had corrected its pyramid funding mistake of camera revenue, going on more cameras, in response to growing outrage. The NDORS scheme was a way of appeasing the public while still allowing Police to generate an income from speeding, an income they had become dependant on under the camera partnership which had been killed off.

The Police always have and are encouraged to use discretion when appropriate for the enforcement of all laws. There is no legislation that exists which creates a legal Framework for "Speed Awareness". It is their guidelines for discretion that allow for this.

There is nothing in law that prevents a private course being arranged. There is also nothing in law that prevents protection if you attend. Though in most cases the offence would have timed out.

No legislation preventing someone from attending a private Speed Awareness course - she absolutely could have done this. Its likely she asked the wrong person.

There is a well known trick to avoid doing the course and the points and she could have, but chose not to use it. She could have booked on to the course and then failed to turn up, giving the police no time to present the prosecution within the time limit.
Thanks for the tips.

Its likely she asked the wrong person.

Why would a law graduate barrister and head of the courts think a civil servant had jurisdiction to sort out a private criminal case?

Blup
 
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