Does Neighbour's Cable Running Across Garden Need Armouring?

[ban-all-sheds]

These people have been a pain since they moved in 2 yrs ago.

You need to think about how far you want to push this, and what the repercussions might be.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Reading this PDF from Blagdon is interesting as it seems to say since their produce is pre-made you can fit it under the Part P rules without informing the LABC.

For the umpteenth time, Part P has absolutely nothing do do with notifiability.


That Blagdon product may be non-notifiable but even if that was what had been used here Part P would still apply, and I don't think that the installation has been done in a way which complies.

 

[3500P5BV8]

Thanks for all the replies so far.

So, it's looking like it doesn't comply?

Can someone just briefly outline why it doesn't comply, which parts aren't compliant (and which parts aren't right, eg. the run along bottom of fence and the cable trailing over the earth), and what needs to be done to make it compliant?

 

[SimonH2]

So can't really say all outside cable should be SWA although that's what I would use. Reading this PDF from Blagdon is interesting as it seems to say since their produce is pre-made you can fit it under the Part P rules without informing the LABC.

I think it would fall under Sched 4, para 3 (c) :

3. Work on—
(c) pre-fabricated equipment sets and associated flexible leads with integral plug and
socket connections.

Perhaps the OP should start cultivating that bit of ground, but be careful not to stick the fork through the cable

 

[Spark123]

Think we've been here before with those Blagdon kits, I don't believe they comply with Sch 4 para 3 C as the initial connection in the house requires you to fit a plug onto the cable. The pamphlet is pretty awful, have scanned through it and can't remember it mentioning notification or not, just mentions "All Blagdon Powersafe products comply with legal electrical safety standards" whatever that means wrt Part P??
It mentions using a circuit breaker for outdoor supplies, I have installed outdoor supplies with fuses before so is this wrong?
Then there's the 25mA RCD vs a 30mA RCD argument!!

 

[Spark123]

Thanks for all the replies so far.

So, it's looking like it doesn't comply?

Can someone just briefly outline why it doesn't comply, which parts aren't compliant (and which parts aren't right, eg. the run along bottom of fence and the cable trailing over the earth), and what needs to be done to make it compliant?

Is there a risk of the cable becoming damaged by impact? If so then it needs to be in armoured or similar.
It also needed to be notified to your LABC prior to installation (unless a competent person is doing the work and they can notify using their scheme afterwards).

 

[3500P5BV8]

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[3500P5BV8]

Thanks for all the replies so far.

So, it's looking like it doesn't comply?

Can someone just briefly outline why it doesn't comply, which parts aren't compliant (and which parts aren't right, eg. the run along bottom of fence and the cable trailing over the earth), and what needs to be done to make it compliant?

Is there a risk of the cable becoming damaged by impact? If so then it needs to be in armoured or similar.
It also needed to be notified to your LABC prior to installation (unless a competent person is doing the work and they can notify using their scheme afterwards).

Trailing across the garden, I suppose there are many ways to damage it, impact or otherwise.

Here's the rub: the neighbour is a Gassafe plumber, and I'm assuming Part P. Competent - well maybe you're better qualified to judge.

 

[sparkwright]

It's his cable, and it shouldn't be in your garden, particularly where it can be struck with a spade.

Even if it was an armoured cable, would you honestly be happy with it in your garden?

I think the answer is NO.

Cable shouldn't be fixed to fences. Fence panels blow down. Even the newest fences - can still blow down.

WHY isn't the cable in his garden? Probably because he doesn't want to see the cable, and thinks because there's only a narrow passage way between the fence and your house you won't see it. He clearly thinks he is more important than you.

You can ignore this cable. Or you can go round his place and politely ask him to remove it. And if he doesn't, give him absolute bloody hell till he does remove it. Damned cheek.

 

[sparkwright]

Ask him WHY the cable is in your garden.

And if he says because he doesn't want to see it, bloody tell him you don't want to see it either.

And if he says you can't see it, tell him you have seen it.

 

[Spark123]

Here's the rub: the neighbour is a Gassafe plumber, and I'm assuming Part P. Competent - well maybe you're better qualified to judge.

Try putting your postcode in here: http://www.competentperson.co.uk/default.aspx

 

[ricicle]

Surely your neighbour needs to pay some sort of wayleave for the right to have his cable across your land.

 

[3500P5BV8]

He clearly thinks he is more important than you.

You don't know how true that statement is.

From the day they moved in 2 yrs ago, they have been a complete pain. Have had several run-ins. They are neighbours from hell who ride rough-shod over everyone, and make as much noise as possible, mainly to show off.

Just in this one incident, he has trespassed on our land, fixed a cable in a way that suits him, and left a potentially unsafe, illegal installation. Small stuff maybe, but added to all the other things......................

Bloody neighbours!!!!!!

Thanks to all for the advice. Going to get it sorted.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I sympathise - had neighbours like that for a time.

You couldn't reason with them. They just did what they wanted and that was that.

I moved.

 

[radioredcat]

If he has an RCD it would trip if the cable got damaged somehow as there's more than one to skin a cat.

Andy