Don't break the law then. Simple.
Don't criticise the Olympics...
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Don't break the law then. Simple.
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imamartian
It's fact. Had lots of experience with the police, assaulted on numerous occasions. Fractured skull, check bone, ruptured testicle, broken eye socket...
I cant sat all cops are the same because it was a cop that probably saved my life that night, he was run-out of that station for telling the truth. IPCC came back with nothing..
Took alot of police to pull together to get out of that, even the police video went missing
Interesting, and a revealing insight?!!! And maybe a small amount of respect, because if you are the person on the end of a wrongdoing, whether it be by copper, nurse or clergyman, you are fully entitled to hate their badge forever,
But you live in a world with many other people, so ultimately you can't aim to bring down an organisation just because you got wronged...
Yes, Harwood stepped out of line, but don't lets bang on and on and on... lets look to making something we do quite well a lot better...
Let's not allow your hardship to affect us all negatively, let's use your experience to make life better for us all?
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joinerjohn
John seriously, how big in your life is police brutality?
Why do you bang on incessantly about a few errant coppers (and i accept Harwood should get a job digging gardens or something that is not policing), but the guy made a mistake, he didn't go out that morning with the intention of s****g a 7 year old girl !!!
Please answer my direct post rather than sucking up to the trolls on here!!
Police brutality isn't a big thing in my life. That's answered your first question. Now for the second part. How many police were used to arrest these demonstrators (who dropped a bit of custard on the ground)? Would these police officers be better utilised investigating the pervert who wakes up in the morning with the intention of raping a child?
I think you know the answer.
As you say, Harwood didn't go out that morning with the intention of causing someone's death, but he disobeyed orders and someone did indeed die. Even though he's been found not guilty by his peers, a lot of questions are still to be answered to the public's satisfaction.
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peaps2
I hadn't either but if he thinks making a complaint to an inspector is unlawful then I'm guilty as sin.
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imamartian
seems that bit's wrong if you spend most of your life here whinging about it
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joinerjohn
I resent people in authority, abusing their powers. Simple as that Marty. I perceive the whole Harwood case as an abuse of the powers given to him as a police officer. Someone died as a result of the abuse, and yes, I do feel very strongly about the case (involving as it does, someone from Derbyshire)
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imamartian
John, i agree with you... but the guy was found to be innocent !!! and we can argue the t055 about that forever, but Harwood made a mistake... his decision that day to push Tomlinson wasn't the worst thing in the world...
Things like this are:
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne..._offender__who_blamed_girl__seven__goes_free/
So yes, make Harwood aware that he has a debt to society for the fact he's alive and another person isn't, but let's get on the case of complete scumbags that thinks it's right to blame a 7yr old girl for "pinning him down"!!!!
Things like this are:
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne..._offender__who_blamed_girl__seven__goes_free/
So yes, make Harwood aware that he has a debt to society for the fact he's alive and another person isn't, but let's get on the case of complete scumbags that thinks it's right to blame a 7yr old girl for "pinning him down"!!!!
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peaps2
or we could just agree both are scum?
Well I was at the dress rehearsal for the opening ceremony last night and both me and me bro were very critical when it failed to get going. In fact we both nearly buggered off. However they got their act together and it turned into a very good night.
No details of course, all very secret squirrel, but a shame when all finished as very good show. Was embarrasing to start with, thought they had stuffed it up.
Security at our gate 100% army and the young lads were a pleasure to deal with. Fast and efficient. Though i suspect they dont need xray machines and metal detectors, they can smell a suicide bomber from 100 yards and are smart enough to know who they need to take round the back. unlike the pretty boys in the met who were as always only showing force when they knew there wasnt a problem
No details of course, all very secret squirrel, but a shame when all finished as very good show. Was embarrasing to start with, thought they had stuffed it up.
Security at our gate 100% army and the young lads were a pleasure to deal with. Fast and efficient. Though i suspect they dont need xray machines and metal detectors, they can smell a suicide bomber from 100 yards and are smart enough to know who they need to take round the back. unlike the pretty boys in the met who were as always only showing force when they knew there wasnt a problem
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mdf290
Power corrupts . . and leads to abuse...
When that abuse is supported by the so called arbiters - (IPCC) then obviously the Police will be targets of mistrust.
It all started to go wrong back in the 1980s a sea change shift happened then.
Once when you called the Police you would expect them to support you if you were a victim of someone else.
I remember in the 1980s when farmers used to call the Police because someone had started a rave in one of their fields , tresspassing and scaring livestock. The next thing the farmer would be arrested for using threatening language or behaviour.
Police priorities had changed from protecting the status quo to arresting anybody for anything just as long as the officer got a result.
The whole racial tension thing has been unecessarily escalated by the Police obsession with the word 'Offence' where they are the deciders of whether anyone could have been offended even if noone has actually complained or indeed been offended.
People will be arrested on account of complaining or making remarks against Islamic extremists their remarks deemed to be liable to cause offence when in fact the remarks would be SUPPORTED by many ethnic and moderate Muslims themselves.
They are so tied up in political dogma and directional advice that they have lost sight of what their real job is.
They now believe they are social arbiters and political directionists..
Wrong they are officers whose sole purpose should be to uphold the law unilaterally and without predjudice.
Unfortunately all public servants are up their own ass these days with misconcieved high opinions of themselves.
Anyone within the NHS now who has been taught to put a plaster on someone suddenly believe they are some consultant or higher ranking medical professional with the authority to make decisions autonomously.
Nurses in wards where people are dying through malnutrition or dehydration simply because its beneath them to actually pick up a spoon and feed someone.
I'ts good to see the Police get stick when deserved because if noone complains believe me it would only get worse and worse.
Of course when the Police get stick there is always someone to stick up for them citing an officer dying in the line of duty and of course that is lamentable but sadly those occasions are few and far between and the reality is that most peoples experience is of a faceless unnacountable propagandists organisation.
When that abuse is supported by the so called arbiters - (IPCC) then obviously the Police will be targets of mistrust.
It all started to go wrong back in the 1980s a sea change shift happened then.
Once when you called the Police you would expect them to support you if you were a victim of someone else.
I remember in the 1980s when farmers used to call the Police because someone had started a rave in one of their fields , tresspassing and scaring livestock. The next thing the farmer would be arrested for using threatening language or behaviour.
Police priorities had changed from protecting the status quo to arresting anybody for anything just as long as the officer got a result.
The whole racial tension thing has been unecessarily escalated by the Police obsession with the word 'Offence' where they are the deciders of whether anyone could have been offended even if noone has actually complained or indeed been offended.
People will be arrested on account of complaining or making remarks against Islamic extremists their remarks deemed to be liable to cause offence when in fact the remarks would be SUPPORTED by many ethnic and moderate Muslims themselves.
They are so tied up in political dogma and directional advice that they have lost sight of what their real job is.
They now believe they are social arbiters and political directionists..
Wrong they are officers whose sole purpose should be to uphold the law unilaterally and without predjudice.
Unfortunately all public servants are up their own ass these days with misconcieved high opinions of themselves.
Anyone within the NHS now who has been taught to put a plaster on someone suddenly believe they are some consultant or higher ranking medical professional with the authority to make decisions autonomously.
Nurses in wards where people are dying through malnutrition or dehydration simply because its beneath them to actually pick up a spoon and feed someone.
I'ts good to see the Police get stick when deserved because if noone complains believe me it would only get worse and worse.
Of course when the Police get stick there is always someone to stick up for them citing an officer dying in the line of duty and of course that is lamentable but sadly those occasions are few and far between and the reality is that most peoples experience is of a faceless unnacountable propagandists organisation.
So who thinks the Tory mp is guilty with what he said about the opening ceremony being"leftist multiracial crap" this coming from an mp in the government of a multiracial and multicultural country
Guilty of what?So who thinks the Tory mp is guilty with what he said about the opening ceremony being"leftist multiracial crap" this coming from an mp in the government of a multiracial and multicultural country
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joinerjohn
FWIW, I reckon the police today treat the victims of crime, more harshly than the perpetrators of crime, simply because of the Human Rights Act.
It seems to me that the crims have so many rights, the police are treading on eggshells when it comes to them. Whereas, the victims have less Human Rights (as dictated by Brussels) At least that's what it seems like. At court cases the length and breadth of the land, criminals are pleading to the courts that their human rights have been infringed, yet we don't hear mention of the human rights of their victims. Not once has a solicitor spoke up in court about the rights of victims.
Get rid of this iniquitous piece of legislation and replace it with a human responsibilities act.
I'm getting the feeling that I should go out and mug some poor OAP, then when arrested and sent to trial, I can tell the judge/magistrate, that if imprisoned, my pet dog would suffer greatly because of my absence from the family home.
I'd probably get off with a slap on the wrists.
It seems to me that the crims have so many rights, the police are treading on eggshells when it comes to them. Whereas, the victims have less Human Rights (as dictated by Brussels) At least that's what it seems like. At court cases the length and breadth of the land, criminals are pleading to the courts that their human rights have been infringed, yet we don't hear mention of the human rights of their victims. Not once has a solicitor spoke up in court about the rights of victims.
Get rid of this iniquitous piece of legislation and replace it with a human responsibilities act.
I'm getting the feeling that I should go out and mug some poor OAP, then when arrested and sent to trial, I can tell the judge/magistrate, that if imprisoned, my pet dog would suffer greatly because of my absence from the family home.
I'd probably get off with a slap on the wrists.
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