Dover. It's what we wanted.

[JonathanM]

Which naturally increases the process and the time.

No doubt, as well as stamping it, they looked at it

I'm trying to do the maths but not sure I've got it right. On a busy day I think about 30,000 passengers in vehicles sail to the continent from Dover. There are 6 border control booths. Say each passport, after Brexit, takes an extra fifteen seconds to check and stamp. This would take an extra 312.5 hours. So, divided by 6 control booths, that's an extra 52 hours needed at each booth. If this maths is right, I think they're doing a really good job to keep the queue to 18 hours!

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I'm sure its different for freight, but for tourists the border crossing process is as easy as its ever been.

Except that it is not, as witnessed by those coaches and their passengers. Delays of around a day?

Even the Government has admitted the problem, post Brexit, so it's a stretch to imagine it isn't true.

Coach firms try Eurotunnel after Dover ferry delays

The cross-Channel operator has seen a rise in enquiries but is unlikely to have availability.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Mottie]

I’ve got a friend going to France for some fishing next week. Going on the ferry as usual. They’ve changed his time from 4.30am to 6.30am and they are going to bring in API. Last two times he's been, they have merely glanced at his passport AND DID NOT STAMP IT. Didn’t stamp my sisters passport last year when she went to Spain either.

 

[Mottie]

Brexit has intentionally made travel between UK and EU more difficult.

It's what you wanted.

Correct.

Correct.

 

[gant]

JDs failed to mention it's put his nose out of joint, that's got to be a Brexit bonus.

 

[Notch7]

That's my point. With the exception of stamping passports (which was very quick) the process took no longer than it did when i last travelled via eurotunnel when we were part of the eu. They looked at passports then too.

you wouldn’t be saying that if you were stuck behind 3 coaches with 60 people in each.

or you couldn’t actually reach the terminal because Dover is snarled up with freight, coaches etc etc.

all in all we have more delays for no advantages….apart from slight reductions in tariffs with countries thousands of miles away.

 

[Notch7]

Correct.

Correct.

Yes it’s what you wanted for zero benefit.

 

[Notch7]

AND DID NOT STAMP IT. Didn’t stamp my sisters passport last year when she went to Spain either

So how did they know how many days they had spent in EU?

 

[motorbiking]

I’ve got a friend going to France for some fishing next week. Going on the ferry as usual. They’ve changed his time from 4.30am to 6.30am and they are going to bring in API. Last two times he's been, they have merely glanced at his passport AND DID NOT STAMP IT. Didn’t stamp my sisters passport last year when she went to Spain either.

that could lead to a problem for them. If you don't stamp in, they could fine you for Schengen violations. If you don't get a stamp in France, I would personally report to the nearest police station and ask them to do so. They are normally friendly [if you speak French].

All passports are checked. non visa holders and non EU citizens need to stamp in out. I travel a lot and I highly doubt anyone is totting up my ins and outs to work out if I have been 91 days in 180. All they check is you stamped in when you stamp out. There are a few countries who don't enforce the requirements in order to be more competitive for tourists.

 

[Mottie]

So how did they know how many days they had spent in EU?

Quite simply, they didn’t. And they probably didn’t care either. Anyway, they are doing away with stamping passports in November.

 

[motorbiking]

yep - they are gonna finger print you and charge you £6 instead or perhaps not.

 

[Mottie]

you wouldn’t be saying that if you were stuck behind 3 coaches with 60 people in each.

Do coaches and cars go in the same lane then?

 

[Mottie]

yep - they are gonna finger print you and charge you £6 instead or perhaps not.

For three years so £2 a year. Sufferable.

 

[ellal]

I travel a lot and I highly doubt anyone is totting up my ins and outs to work out if I have been 91 days in 180.

I guess you don't understand the 'biometric' bit about your passport then

But imagine a time when that totting up of your 'travel allowance' wasn't necessary...

How much easier would that be?

 

[motorbiking]

You are aware that they do not systematically check your Schengen "Quota" and have been building an IT system to figure it out? it keeps getting pushed back.