Eaves height question for single storey

[shd1970]

Neighbours are having a single storey extension built on the back of their house
They told us on the day it started so wasn't best pleased
They also said they were only going out 3 or 4 feet b ut its actually double that !

Asked as to whether they applied for permission but they have said its permitted dev

Our garden level is lower down than their garden level by about 3 or so feet

Permitted dev regs mentions "Maximum eaves height of an extension within two metres of the boundary of three metres"

https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/17/extensions

Their extension is about 1 foot inside their border

Q: Would the 3m height be taken from their ground level or from our ground level ?

Thanks in advance of any replies

 

[Jadele]

their ground level. And although you may not want to hear it, stop trying to cause problems. They would likely get planning and unless you won't years of agro with your neighbours why get so caught up in it? If it was a two storey then maybe.
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3-4feet or even 6 or 8 feet is nothing they can go to 10 before having to apply or even tell you. If they did apply it would go to neighbour consultation and if they get that which they likely would unless you had a really good reason why not then they could go up to 20 feet

 

[^woody^]

, stop trying to cause problems

Wtf are you on?

Why shouldn't the OP be concerned about protecting his property and amenity?

 

[^woody^]

Our garden level is lower down than their garden level by about 3 or so fee

Height is determined from the highest natural ground level immediately adjacent to the extension wall.

No joy there.

But the Party Wall Act may apply, and they may have been required to serve a notice on you. Look in to that.

 

[Jadele]

Wtf are you on?

Why shouldn't the OP be concerned about protecting his property and amenity?

Ah well glad I don't live near you! Perhaps I will see you sometime on Neighbours from hell! LOL.. Its permitted development - get over it!

 

[tony1851]

Height is determined from the highest natural ground level immediately adjacent to the extension wall.

No joy there.

But the Party Wall Act may apply, and they may have been required to serve a notice on you. Look in to that.

Wouldn't it be a bit late for that now?

 

[^woody^]

Ah well glad I don't live near you!

Agh, you wound me sir. But no hard feelings, you would be most welcome to come and live in Midsomer any time.

 

[^woody^]

Wouldn't it be a bit late for that now?

It depends.

 

[tony1851]

....on what?

 

[^woody^]

....on what?

On whether the relevant work has started, and the owner can be convinced to serve a proper notice.

Or on whether the work is in progress and the OP wants to get an injunction.

Or, (as some bloke mentioned on here previously), the PW Act can be applied retrospectively. But this relies on there being some damage afterwards, IIRC.

 

[shd1970]

In answer to Jadele....trying to be awkward.....not really, as mentioned to you by Woody, why shouldn't i....its my property and why should i not look into it.
Similarly, like the boiler flue that i believe is incorrect also being close to the boundary, their own doors and window and guttering and when i have my windows open, we get wafts of fumes.....should i ignore that too ?

Next question then....what about the footings for their extension.....how far down do they need to go......below my 3 foot wall presumably that they have built within 18" of ?

Its effectively a retaining wall holding back what was the soil/slabs of their patio that obviously now, has far more weight on it !

Should i ignore that too Jadele and wait to come home from work and find the side of their extension in my back garden ?

 

[catlad]

Hi there if you want some advice about the flue then you would be better
advised on the plumbing forum as there are plenty of regulations about flues
and were they can and can't go. And only a moron would dig footings
3 foot deep if the ground dropped away quickly.

 

[garyo]

What size/ style roof are they building? Have you seen the plans?

 

[napoleondynamite]

Householder permitted development legislation is pretty complicated- see Government's 50 pages of technical guidance for evidence of that-

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...238/160413_Householder_Technical_Guidance.pdf

I have no idea whether what is being built complies with these complicated and often illogical rules and guidance, but I can say from experience there is a good chance that it does not, and if so planning permission is required!

If you do want it looked into you will need to report it to your Council planning team to investigate further..

 

[wessex101]

It's sad how these situations arise just because neighbours don't talk to each other.

If my neighbour suddenly announced they were starting to build an extension that day that was close to the boundary I too would be less than happy. I would probably take the view that if they are so ignorant as not to have the common courtesy to knock on my door a few days before just to let me know then they are probably ignorant enough to ignore Planning, Building Regulations, Party Wall Act etc. etc. (and put a boiler flue close to boundary so the neighbour got the benefit of the fumes)

I would give them one more chance, I would approach them and express my concerns about the boundary retaining wall. If they reassured me that they had taken it into account and the foundation depth would not affect the wall I would probably let it go but continue to monitor the work very carefully. I would expect the extension foundation to be taken down at least to the level of the retaining wall foundation. If they continued with the ignorant inconsiderate selfish approach it would be time to start getting awkward.