electric outlets (ringmain spur etc) (WITH PICS) please help

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Just a quick query guys, I've never done any work on a mobile, but do building regs apply on them?, they are prefabricated structures that are mobile like a portakabin, obviously there will be fire standards etc but do they come under building control?

As I say not something i've ever worked on just curious.
 
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And if it's a 32A 4mm² radial with a branch at the CU?

Well then his end to end test won't 'beep' will it?

What test? It's obviously a ring in working order if there are two wires.
i said that in the beginning lol (although could be a radial carring on from socket to the last socket)

thats why i thought u was causing issues

2 wires indicate ring, but as a mobile home i wanted to be safe so ill do a test between the 2 lives and if i get a beep i can rest assure it is 100% a ring circuit its cause its a mobilehome n old i dnt trust it so im being safe

thanks anyway
 
And if it's a 32A 4mm² radial with a branch at the CU?

Well then his end to end test won't 'beep' will it?

What test? It's obviously a ring in working order if there are two wires.
i said that in the beginning lol (although could be a radial carring on from socket to the last socket)

thats why i thought u was causing issues

2 wires indicate ring, but as a mobile home i wanted to be safe so ill do a test between the 2 lives and if i get a beep i can rest assure it is 100% a ring circuit its cause its a mobilehome n old i dnt trust it so im being safe

thanks anyway

That post was sarcasm. Just because two wires are present doesn't mean it's a ring, let alone an intact one. Two wires indicate nothing other than the presence of two wires.
 
And if it's a 32A 4mm² radial with a branch at the CU?

Well then his end to end test won't 'beep' will it?

What test? It's obviously a ring in working order if there are two wires.
i said that in the beginning lol (although could be a radial carring on from socket to the last socket)

thats why i thought u was causing issues

2 wires indicate ring, but as a mobile home i wanted to be safe so ill do a test between the 2 lives and if i get a beep i can rest assure it is 100% a ring circuit its cause its a mobilehome n old i dnt trust it so im being safe

thanks anyway

That post was sarcasm. Just because two wires are present doesn't mean it's a ring, let alone an intact one. Two wires indicate nothing other than the presence of two wires.

read again ma8
i state it could be a radial as it could be a radial without junction boxes just useing the sockets instead thats why i will deff check

thats why i said in the begining of the post im assuming until i test
 
Facts:

Ring final circuits can't be tested properly with a battery and bulb
Two wires with continuity between them does NOT mean it is a ring
GreekEnigma already knows what they have done is shoddy and dangerous, so clearly will continue to do whatever they like regardless of any information provided here.
 
And if it's a 32A 4mm² radial with a branch at the CU?

Well then his end to end test won't 'beep' will it?

What test? It's obviously a ring in working order if there are two wires.

Not if someone has accidentally wired the ring into a figure of 8 it wont be. It was my understanding that you need to test resistance of L1N2 and L2N1 at the CU to determine whether its a true ring?

THought so:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Book/8.4.2.htm
 
And if it's a 32A 4mm² radial with a branch at the CU?

Well then his end to end test won't 'beep' will it?

What test? It's obviously a ring in working order if there are two wires.

Not if someone has accidentally wired the ring into a figure of 8 it wont be. It was my understanding that you need to test resistance of L1N2 and L2N1 at the CU to determine whether its a true ring?

THought so:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Book/8.4.2.htm[/QUOTE]

I really need to start using [sarcasm] tags.
 
LMFAO i tried ma8

dnt know why the pics went all nutz like that will try again
Now that somone has done the hard job of remembering which is the Enter key on his keyboard, and put line breaks in there for you, how about you bringing all your powers of concentration to bear on writing in English?


im a very tidy worker.
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Honestly everyone im usually a very tidy worker i just did it slightly bodged this time
Were that not so laughably and obviously untrue as to make it utterly impossible for anyone to be misled by your false assertion I'd call you a liar.

As it is you are just a dangerous, incompetent and delusional fool, and I hope for your Mum's sake that some kind of feelings of responsibility kick in and you get an electrician before you kill the old dear.
 
No. It could be a 20amp radial with other sockets attached.

So you'll look at the back of the socket. there are two cables attached. It could be
a ring final
a socket in the middle of a radial string
a spur from a ring that has another spur off it.
a string of sockets that are fed from a 13A FCU somewhere
etc
etc
etc


you WILL NOT be able to determine that by simply looking at the number of wires in the back of a socket and seeing if there is a 30 amp CPD (more likely 32A) in the fusbox.
 
WOW

EVERYONE IS SO RUDE ON THIS FORUM

ANYWAY

i took face off consumer unit 2x2.5 on 30 amp

added a fused spur to my setup

and will be doing the other to in the other 2 rooms extending on the ringmain

like i said i usually just extend a ringmain whereever the closet outlet is then go from new to next old aka extending ringmain where ever needed

anyway i rang my uncle who used to be a electrician to pop round and check

ALL IS GOOD :)

anyway im deleting my account this forum is to rude

thanks to the veryfew who were helpfull

all that needed answering was

1.check its a ringmain

2.1 spur only if more needed just add a fused spur

Simple as that!

but again thanks to the few that was helpful

byes
 
1.check its a ringmain


Unless you have carried out the test specified above using specialist equipment, you havent done this. If your mum puts a significant load on the cabling, there is a good chance you will cause short, possibly a fire due to the wires being underrated and overheating.

If you have family in the business, get them to carry out a test on the circuit. If your mum ends up a crispy critter in her mobile home funeral pyre dont come back whining on here that you werent warned.
 

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