is there a need to be qualified electrician to do the ins n test course 2391 and would appreciate any advise i am now in my 40 n want to better myself thanks
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No college worth its salt would let you take the course without having done C&G 236 Pts 1&2 (or 2330 as it is now), and possibly 16th edition as well. The level of understanding required for 2391 cannot be acquired overnight, not to mention the practical experience needed to put the info into practice.
I'm not trying to put you off a career change, if I can pass the 2391 I'm sure you can, but you need to take a longer route than you think!
I'm not trying to put you off a career change, if I can pass the 2391 I'm sure you can, but you need to take a longer route than you think!
Like everything in life, experience counts and allows for a correct application of the knowledge.
It's like saying I've read all about sex, read all about the Karma Sutra- But I'm still a virgin.
Just because I can cook breakfast, doesn't mean I'm ready to cook for a 300 head wedding.
Having a qualification to test and inspect isn't much good without the knowledge regarding working at a clients / builders site and being expected to disconnect, re-terminate, isolate etc
If your up for the learning do the coursework, if you pass what are you expecting to use the qualification for?
Many here have already mentioned the general reluctance of electrical contractors to take on newbie DISQ, 2381 or 2391 qualified employees unless they have a broad scope of experience as a fitter / sparks mate.
You can understand why, when 15-18 months later the employee simply runs out the door and uses the learning done on paid work (for the employer) to setup and compete against the employer.
Consider the qualification like someone getting a degree, useful and a sign of ability regarding learning, but not the full ticket- That comes with experience, and explains why say a medical degree has to be backup with 'x' number of years working a a jnr and then houseman doctor, before going on their own.
It's like saying I've read all about sex, read all about the Karma Sutra- But I'm still a virgin.
Just because I can cook breakfast, doesn't mean I'm ready to cook for a 300 head wedding.
Having a qualification to test and inspect isn't much good without the knowledge regarding working at a clients / builders site and being expected to disconnect, re-terminate, isolate etc
If your up for the learning do the coursework, if you pass what are you expecting to use the qualification for?
Many here have already mentioned the general reluctance of electrical contractors to take on newbie DISQ, 2381 or 2391 qualified employees unless they have a broad scope of experience as a fitter / sparks mate.
You can understand why, when 15-18 months later the employee simply runs out the door and uses the learning done on paid work (for the employer) to setup and compete against the employer.
Consider the qualification like someone getting a degree, useful and a sign of ability regarding learning, but not the full ticket- That comes with experience, and explains why say a medical degree has to be backup with 'x' number of years working a a jnr and then houseman doctor, before going on their own.
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You need a minumum of 2381 to gain access to the course. 2381 is the 16th edition wiring regulations. The 2391 is very difficult and requires a lot of knowledge from the regulations as well as a good understanding of how to inspect and test. The most annoying thing about the course is that it already assumes you can inspect and test in some mannor and therefore does not allow for much practical classes. most of it is in the classroom. Start off with the 2381
RobFurn said:
The 2391 has always been targetted at experienced sparks. It's only now we have the DI schemes that people are taking this with no previous experience. The 2381 is a pre-requisite, or at least it was.
P.S. I didn't say that there were criteria as such, just that no college "WORTH ITS SALT" would let you walk right in and take the 2391.
If their motivation was purely to make money, they would.
If they were interested in guiding someone into a career the right way, they wouldn't.
If their motivation was purely to make money, they would.
If they were interested in guiding someone into a career the right way, they wouldn't.
RobFurn said:
Absolutely not mate. In the days before PP, sparks would do 2360 (2-3 years). Most would have experience of testing and have been comfortable with test kit when they then went on the 2391. Now we have people with 5 days training and minimal previous testing experience taking the course. This course was always the most difficult of those studied by electricians.
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