electrical conduit for wiring

[HawkEye244]

Going to post pictures of some progress shortly.

Firstly, how do I terminate these connections in the wall so that I can bond plaster over them? I've wrapped them in insulation tape.

I've no way of locating the cable under the floor to pull it out so it will remain live under the new ring is used.

 

[mwatsonxx]

You've forgotten the back box, give up now.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Going to post pictures of some progress shortly.

On the basis of the ones so far, be prepared for some criticism.

Firstly, how do I terminate these connections in the wall so that I can bond plaster over them? I've wrapped them in insulation tape.

Why are they no longer joined together? What circuit are they part of?

They are not enclosed or sheathed - you may not simply plaster over them.

I've no way of locating the cable under the floor to pull it out so it will remain live under the new ring is used.

Then remove the cable(s) at the CU so that they are no longer live.

If they are live then you may not plaster over them even after you have properly enclosed them.

 

[John D v2.0]

To be honest you're going to struggle to do much with those cables unless you can make them dead. I think the best solution after making it dead would be a metal back box and get a flush blanking plate. Then connect them to terminal or wagos as appropriate and fit the blanking plate.
Then the plate will be fairly unobtrusive but no one will end up drilling into the cable as they'll see the accessory hopefully or having a fault later in the wall.

 

[HawkEye244]

To be honest you're going to struggle to do much with those cables unless you can make them dead. I think the best solution after making it dead would be a metal back box and get a flush blanking plate. Then connect them to terminal or wagos as appropriate and fit the blanking plate.
Then the plate will be fairly unobtrusive but no one will end up drilling into the cable as they'll see the accessory hopefully or having a fault later in the wall.

John that's a bit of a ridiculous idea. I'm not going to fit a blanking plate...

 

[HawkEye244]

You've forgotten the back box, give up now.

Nope. If you are going to troll at least do it in context.

 

[John D v2.0]

John that's a bit of a ridiculous idea. I'm not going to fit a blanking plate...

If you want to find ridiculous ideas you might want to look closer to home before being rude to people helping.
Sorry for giving you a chance.

 

[HawkEye244]

If you want to find ridiculous ideas you might want to look closer to home before being rude to people helping.
Sorry for giving you a chance.

If I think it's a stupid idea I'm going to say so bud. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate it.

Thinking on it, I reversed the back box so half your idea got through..

Thing is ideas is not really what I'm after. There are formal ways of dealing with these situations, but quality advice is thin on the ground here, as you can see there are enough arseholes to have to filter out, so sorry if my attitude is not spot on.

Can't see why this won't work when bonding applied on top.

 

[flameport]

There are formal ways of dealing with these situations,

Al of which have been mentioned already:
Disconnect power.
Remove them from the wall and join under the floor using permanent connections.
Install a blanking plate in the wall which remains visible.

Can't see why this won't work when bonding applied on top.

Box not earthed.
When covered with plaster there will be nothing to indicate cables are there.
Insulation tape is not a suitable method of terminating wires.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I'm not going to fit a blanking plate...

Then either remove the cables, or disconnect them.

 

[HawkEye244]

Al of which have been mentioned already:
Disconnect power.
Remove them from the wall and join under the floor using permanent connections.
Install a blanking plate in the wall which remains visible.


Box not earthed.
When covered with plaster there will be nothing to indicate cables are there.
Insulation tape is not a suitable method of terminating wires.

What's the use of going to such lengths to protect a cable that will soon be dead ?

 

[mwatsonxx]

What's the use of going to such lengths to protect a cable that will soon be dead ?

That's the first time you've mentioned that.

 

[JohnD]

make it dead first, then remove the dead cable, then fill the hole.

 

[John D v2.0]

quality advice is thin on the ground here, as you can see there are enough arseholes

Keep digging...

 

[SimonH2]

There are formal ways of dealing with these situations

Yes there are, but so far you seem intent on ignoring them.

, but quality advice is thin on the ground here, as you can see there are enough arseholes to have to filter out, so sorry if my attitude is not spot on.

To be fair, you've had a lot of quality advice, including from BAS in his own blunt manner. That it's not the answer you want doesn't make it bad advice.

It's only after some to-ing and fro-ing that you've come up with the information that these cables will be dead at some point. In the absence of that, the only answers that could be given would be those for properly dealing with live cables. Now that they are to be dead, then AFTER THEY ARE DEAD the answers are different - ideally you remove them altogether, if not then remove as much as is possible including cutting them under the floor so there's no way they can be reconnected by mistake, and only then can you simply fill in the hole.