Electrics Advice (Outside)

[danielst3023]

Hello Everyone,

I recently got planning consent for Outside Electrics for my pond, after recieving the consent I then contacted an electrician to quote me for the job witch is as follows:-

3 Double Sockets - to supply Fishmate Pond Filter & 2 Fishmate Pond Pumps, Water Feature, Decking Lighting and a spare.

The Pumps and filter need to run from a 30 Amp RCB if i remeber right.

Could someone point me in the right direction as I would like to carry out the work myself then get all the wiring in place then to finalize it by getting an electrician in to test it and issue the certificate once its passed inspection.

i.e Materials Required to Cable Requirments

My pond is approx 4 Metres from the property at the rear and the Consumer Unit is at front of the property.

Look forward to recieving your advice

Daniel

 

[kkynaston]

If you have submitted a building notice for putting in the electrics, you can do it yourself if your confident enough.

The council should test & inspect if you have submitted a notice

We can give advice on what you need to do

 

[danielst3023]

Hi, Yep I feel confident enough its just the testing side of it for inspection with our house owned by a Housing Association they require the certificate to say its passed. Do you now what I require for the works to be carried out.

Cheers Daniel

 

[kkynaston]

what sort of planning consent was it? Did you submit a building notice for electrical work or is it just permission from the housing association.

If you have submitted a building notice, they should test and inspect and provide the certificates

 

[comms]

I recently got planning consent for Outside Electrics for my pond, after recieving the consent

First job done then

My pond is approx 4 Metres from the property at the rear and the Consumer Unit is at front of the property

How far is it from the cu to the location where you want the sockets?

You could run 4mm 0r 6mm swa to a largish IP rated enclosure, to supply a small 2 way IP rated rcd main switched cu. This in turn could supply (1) decking lights & (2) pond equipment.

Or

Run 4mm swa to sockets then install an IP rated fused spur for the decking lights.

 

[danielst3023]

what sort of planning consent was it? Did you submit a building notice for electrical work or is it just permission from the housing association.

If you have submitted a building notice, they should test and inspect and provide the certificates

Permission from HA to carry out the works, with Documention confirmation upon completion they want to see proof the works done and safe

 

[danielst3023]

I recently got planning consent for Outside Electrics for my pond, after recieving the consent

First job done then

My pond is approx 4 Metres from the property at the rear and the Consumer Unit is at front of the property

How far is it from the cu to the location where you want the sockets?

You could run 4mm 0r 6mm swa to a largish IP rated enclosure, to supply a small 2 way IP rated rcd main switched cu. This in turn could supply (1) decking lights & (2) pond equipment.

Or

Run 4mm swa to sockets then install an IP rated fused spur for the decking lights.

its approx 20 metres away form pond to CU

 

[stargazer]

Permissions, paperwork, authorisations, paperwork, permissions…
Have a read here before you go any further
//www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:part_p:diy_electrical_work_and_the_law

 

[danielst3023]

Permissions, paperwork, authorisations, paperwork, permissions…
Have a read here before you go any further
//www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:part_p:diy_electrical_work_and_the_law

So these means I cannot carry out the work then. ok

 

[stargazer]

Not at all, but if you decide to do it yourself you must notify your Council first and pay them a fee.
Sorry to rain on your parade, and I am not for one minute a fan of Part P.
It might be cheaper to find an electrician who is registered with a special scheme which means he will take care of all the Council paperwork for you.
Have a look here.
http://www.partp.co.uk/common/search.asp
Your electrician should be happy to let you do donkey work such as digging trenches and laying cables, providing you agree with him first. Might save you a few bob off his bill.

 

[danielst3023]

Ok, That explains why the quote I got was so expensive then

£400

Cheers Daniel

what other way is there any ideas welcome.............

 

[comms]

Ok, That explains why the quote I got was so expensive then

£400

Cheers Daniel

what other way is there any ideas welcome.............

I hate to say it but, there is the armadillo system . You just plug it in like an extension lead, so no need to worry about part P.

http://www.watergardening-direct.co.uk/acatalog/Armoured_Cable_Kits.html

Now I must go away and like any self respecting sparky, beat myself senseless with a cricket bat for advocating the use of such items .

Get some more quotes, but for what you want £400 does seem to be in the ball park, so long as the cu has an rcd to cover the sockets.

 

[danielst3023]

Yeh had a look at that web site. I did have a look here

http://www.screwfix.co.uk/prods/446...s/Weatherproof/Weatherboxes/Volex-Weatherbox#

will this be suitable or are these only for temporary power

I have also found these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180241491451

if I were to get 2 of these then I will be happy with 4 points but then how would these connect up to cu

Cheers
Daniel

 

[breezer]

you wont need a 30A supply to run a pond pump and uv.

 

[danielst3023]

Ok

my instruction manual stares a 30 amp rcd

Fishmate Pond Pump 2000 and i have 2 of these to run and a Fish Mate Compact 8w UV + Bio Pond Filter

Cheers Daniel