Extending heating into conservatory - pipeing

[rjm2k]

I'm going to be moving the rad shown below either under the window or with a tall fancy one next to the window. At the same time I'm thinking (well, the OH is wanting) to add a rad to the conservatory which is on the other side of said window. The house floor is wooden, however the conservatory floor is concrete so I'm wondering what the best way of running the pipes is? I've considered taking the skirting board off and running a pipe up through the wooden floor behind the skirt and through the wall into the cons. either completely behind the skirt or if needs be hacking a bit of plaster out above the skirt and putting the pipe behind the dot and dab plasterboard then covering over. I assume I T off the pipes that are currently feeding the rad when I adjust them for the new position. The current pipes are 15mm but I have some 10 in the garage and I'm thinking that it will be easier to hide/get through the wall than the 15? On the cons side we will be plastering so I will probably be able to run the pipe behind skirt alond to the radiator that will be added in there. The cons rad will probably be a short wide one under the windows on the dwarf wall you can see.

Corner where new rad will be to side or under window.
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Inside of conservatory, I've decided to put the rad on the opposite side of the door to this to avoid the soil pipe.

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Any thoughts on this please?

Thanks

 

[kjacko]

I've just had a conservatory built and was told that i couldn't put a rad in that connected into the same heat source as the rest of the house. It had to have its own separate supply of heat and its own feed into the combi in the loft was out of the question.
So we're putting air con in.

I'm not totally sure if this is true, but if you intend on complying to regs then it may be worth checking out.

 

[rjm2k]

Thanks for the pointer, I found this

http://www.1st-4-conservatories.co.uk/conservatory_building_regulations.html

Will My Conservatory Require Part or Full Building Regulations Approval?

8) The conservatory will not be 'permanently heated' (This can be achieved by thermostatic radiator valves)

Common instances requiring Full Building Regulations Approval for conservatories are:
3) The extension of the central heating system into the conservatory without thermostatic control valves.

So it looks like as long as I have a TRV on it should be ok.

I may look into undefloor heating though, hadn't thought of that and the OH wants laminate putting down so I may be able to sandwich between the tiles and laminate, only complication there is there's a main manhole in there too which is easy enough to leave a door around in the laminate but not sure about UFH

 

[HERTS P&D]

Put your rad under the window then drill through and have a rad in the conservatory.

It should have it's own controls but you could always remove it when/if you move.

Andy

 

[rjm2k]

Put your rad under the window then drill through and have a rad in the conservatory.

It should have it's own controls but you could always remove it when/if you move.

Andy

Thank's I had thought of that but you can't see on the photo that both walls under the main house windows in the cons have electric sockets on so nowhere for the rad to go without altering the wiring

If hiding pipe behind the SB isn't possible then I guess I could box the SB out a little in the corner to hide the pipes as that corner is covered by a sideboard anyway.

Would using 10mm instead of 15 make a big different to the output of the rad?

 

[tryitandsee]

I notice you don't have any skirting board along your dwarf wall, so perhaps you could use these preformed skirting boards that conceal the pipework. 10mm would be easy to hide in that.

Just some examples quickly found, better searching may turn up better looking stuff.......just gives you an idea

www.kentsdirect.com/selfbuild_trade...irting-105/2-5-m-pipe-cover-pvc-skirting.html

or

www.kentsdirect.com/selfbuild_trade...-systems/ambassador-skirting-board-cover.html

 

[rjm2k]

Yes, no SB there yet but the OH wants the dwarf wall plastering so will have to put some SB on once that's done. Maybe enough room behind normal SB ontop of plasterboard, or maybe as you suggest a trunking type SB for the pipes.
Thanks

 

[kjacko]

if you dont PB all the way to the floor, and say leave a 2" gap at the bottom, put your rad pipes in that cavity before your SB goes on

 

[hansthebear]

With a long drill bit drill down at an angle through the brick in the conservatory so you end up under the floor on the otherside and pipe from there

 

[muggles]

Thanks for the pointer, I found this

http://www.1st-4-conservatories.co.uk/conservatory_building_regulations.html

Will My Conservatory Require Part or Full Building Regulations Approval?

8) The conservatory will not be 'permanently heated' (This can be achieved by thermostatic radiator valves)

Common instances requiring Full Building Regulations Approval for conservatories are:
3) The extension of the central heating system into the conservatory without thermostatic control valves.

So it looks like as long as I have a TRV on it should be OK

That web page is from 2010, the regs changed in October 2011 and it is no longer permissible to connect a radiator to the same heat source as the rest of your house, regardless of whether it has a TRV or any other control installed on it or not