External floodlight

[securespark]

The passive is in two parts: a backplate which screws to the wall (or in your case an adaptable box) and the front part with the gubbins.

You should be able to separate the two, then you should find the backplate is screwed to the adaptable box lid, possibly with self-tappers or possible with machine screws and nuts.

 

[koontz]

Ok here's some photos took floodlight off and partly took cover off standalone which the inside is covered with dead spiders and cobwebs, also noticed one of the wires from floodlight looks loose and one of the wires from outside cable is just bare wire anyway £10.00 to anyone that can sort this and get it working as I'm close to throwing it over back fence.

 

[securespark]

You should find the screw(s) that hold the passive to its backplate either on the front or maybe underneath.

That passive would catch someone coming from the back garden heading down the path, but as you say, it doesn't work the other way, unless there is another light over the back garden.

 

[securespark]

You will probably need a DMM to work out which wire is which, unless you have a piccy of how it was connected to the light.

Did you take a picture of how the passive is connected?
Or, if there are any internal switches, it may be we can see from those connections which wire is which.

 

[koontz]

3rd and 4th pic are inside of passive, also what's a dmm, please speak like you were speaking to a child lol.

 

[securespark]

The cable that comes from the conservatory seems to be the feed, where is that terminated?

The bare wire in the cable is the earth, need to check if that is connected at the supply end.

 

[securespark]

DMM= Digital Multimeter

 

[securespark]

3rd and 4th pic are inside of passive

Need to see how they are connected to the PIR terminal block.

 

[koontz]

Again don't know what you mean when you say we're is it terminated.

 

[securespark]

Where the wires are connected to the terminal block on the PIR.

 

[securespark]

To go onto the problem of the blown fuses, you say a fuse in a fused switch for the fan blew?

And the fuse for the outside line?

Can you explain what the outside line is?

I can't see why the fuse for the fan should blow. The only possibility I can think of is that the supply for the fan is fed off the feed to the outside light and went off when you short-circuited the wiring.

There appear from your description to be 5 conductors in the cable: 2 "earths", live, neutral and black wire.

It is crucial these are identified.

If (as I think someone previously mentioned) you say there were 2 earths, it is possible you have confused the yellow as an earth wire and connected it to the bare conductor, which is the actual earth wire.

In the cable, I saw in the pictures are: Red, Yellow, Blue, Black and a bare CPC (earth).

Which of those did you connect as live and neutral?

Is there an override switch anywhere so you can turn the light on permanently (rather than just via the passive)?

My guess is that in the cable there is a live, a neutral, an override wire and an earth and a spare. But you will need to either look in the passive or at the origin of that cable to find out which colour does what.

The picture you have taken of the wires connected to the PIR is of the inside of the adaptable box lid. It doesn't show the wires where they connect to the PIR terminals.

If you can take a piccy of the wires where they connect to the PIR, that would be a help.

 

[securespark]

Are both the unswitched connection unit and the switched connection unit in the conservatory connected to your outside light?

 

[koontz]

More photos managed to get top off pir, there was a for a fact 3 wires coming from the conservatory into the pir, and then 4 wires going to flood light.

 

[koontz]

Think my solution is to get rid of existing pir, get junction box then I just have 3 wires in 3 wires out.

 

[koontz]

Another picture which might help