Gas prosecution last week.....but it has a bizarre twist. Your thoughts!

[Deleted member 267285]

Private companies don't employ people?

They do, just not inspectors

 

[denso13]

They do, just not inspectors

They must be making this up, "Our team of over 90 highly-trained gas safety inspectors undertake monitoring inspections of all businesses on the Gas Safe Register to ensure they’re applying gas competence." with over 55,000 inspections annually.

Keeping people gas safe for over 14 years

From our gas safety inspectors to experienced customer service agents and the latest technology, we support the highest levels of public safety including the Gas Safe Register.

www.capita.com

 

[gas112]

The new Gas Safe Register brand is owned by the Health and Safety Executive (HSE), but is on loan to Capita for the duration of its contract with the HSE.
With the inspectors being employed by capita

Capita re-selected by HSE to manage Gas Safe Register

Capita announces today it has been re-selected by the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) to continue to manage the Gas Safe Register.

www.capita.com

 

[ianmcd]

being Gas safe registered does not prove competancy, ACS or equivalent does that, Gas Safe are simply a register which it is recommended that everyone joins, if You are qualified and can prove competency then Gas Safe is Voluntary, they wont tell anyone this though, if you are Gas safe registered and you make a mistake all they can do is remove you from the register, if you are not Gas safe registerd and an incident happens, then the HSE will prosecute , not Gas Safe, exactly the same if you are or are not Gas Safe registerd

 

[old duffer]

Private companies don't employ people?

Do you have a link to the relevant part? I think you are confused about inspections and mandatory training while on the register.

can you post the link to those terms and conditons please, can't see them. This I presume is a contractual agreement with capita if you pay to join their club? As capita have no statutory powers of any kind, how do they obtain the ability to inspect work in private homes or commercial properties if not by asking and if they say no, what then?

 

[denso13]

can you post the link to those terms and conditons please, can't see them.

What terms and conditions? Where is your link to what you claimed?

 

[ianmcd]

how do they obtain the ability to inspect work in private homes or commercial properties if not by asking and if they say no, what then?

Any one can refuse access to any one from Gas safe, they have no legal rights of access, normally people invite them to assess a concern, or a registered installer can arrange access agreed by the customer as part of the conditions of registration

 

[Deleted member 267285]

how do they obtain the ability to inspect work in private homes or commercial properties if not by asking and if they say no, what then?

If the installation was classed as immediately dangerous, then the esp has right of access. If it’s a general inspection then as per @ianmcd they would need to be invited in or an agreed date when convenient for all parties involved. I would like to think, if someone has had a new installation they wouldn’t mind a free inspection for peace of mind.

 

[ianmcd]

If the installation was classed as immediately dangerous, then the esp has right of access.

Not strictly true mate, if a RGI classes a situation as ID and permission to disconnect is denied, the Transporter will be notified, they have no right of access , but will terminate the supply outwith the customers premises usually at the service connection at the gas main, but even the transporter does not have any legal access rights

 

[Deleted member 267285]

Not strictly true mate, if a RGI classes a situation as ID and permission to disconnect is denied, the Transporter will be notified, they have no right of access , but will terminate the supply outwith the customers premises usually at the service connection at the gas main, but even the transporter does not have any legal access rights

Sorry mate, but I was only going off the giusp/igemG11

 

[Notch7]

So is gas safe a scheme to make money for its shareholders, or is it actually offering a valuable service?

What do plumbers get for their annual registration fee? (other than they have to)

 

[ianmcd]

So is gas safe a scheme to make money for its shareholders, or is it actually offering a valuable service?

What do plumbers get for their annual registration fee? (other than they have to)

A free magazine full of advertising

 

[gas112]

Not strictly true mate, if a RGI classes a situation as ID and permission to disconnect is denied, the Transporter will be notified, they have no right of access , but will terminate the supply outwith the customers premises usually at the service connection at the gas main, but even the transporter does not have any legal access rights

wrong ian they have rights of entry ID card that hangs around there neck gaining access can be quicker than waiting for a team to turn up to disconnect outside if owner of premises refuses access in an ID situation ,
99 times out of a hundred it wont need to be used after threat of it is used to customer

 

[fixitflav]

If the installation was classed as immediately dangerous, then the esp has right of access. If it’s a general inspection then as per @ianmcd they would need to be invited in or an agreed date when convenient for all parties involved. I would like to think, if someone has had a new installation they wouldn’t mind a free inspection for peace of mind.

What's an esp? Yet another TLA!

 

[gas112]

What's an esp? Yet another TLA!

emergency service provider what was BG /transco/national grid /cadent etc