We knocked ourselves off our perch....Kenny will put us back on it you can gaurantee it
Nice to see Fergie keep mentioning Liverpools threat next year....even he knows himself. I can imagine hes a bit annoyed at the King taking over at Liverpool now
We knocked ourselves off our perch....Kenny will put us back on it you can gaurantee it
Nice to see Fergie keep mentioning Liverpools threat next year....even he knows himself. I can imagine hes a bit annoyed at the King taking over at Liverpool now
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Stats show that if Kenny had taken charge at the start of the season Liverpool would have been in the top 2.
They are also the most in form team in the Premiership. So with our squad, yes we are very capable of winning the league. Beating United, Chelsea, Arsenal shows the squad is capable.
There are lies,damned lies and statistics!
You could attribute your recent improvement to literally anything such as new manager reaction. You cannot assume you would play the same over a whole season
Most teams have good and bad spells
You forget we beat you 2x out of 3 I am just not making a big deal of it
Objectively I think you need 3 or 4 more top players to realistically compete
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You don't understand what's happening at Liverpool. After 3 clowns who were frightened to lose we now have a manager who wants to win. There's a big difference, especially with 3 points for a win and only 1 for a draw. I could never understand why someone didn't explain that to Houllier, Benitez and Hodgson.
You've only got to look at the difference in attitude by Liverpool players under Dalglish. The improvement is not down to "new manager effect", it's down to freeing the players to go out and play, and try to win.
I know they'll be trying to do the same next seaon. As for beating us 2 out of 3, One was under Hodgson, one was when Dalglish had just got off the plane. The next one we hammered you.
Of course we need 3 or 4 more players (at least), do you not think he's going to go out and get them.
For years United Chelsea and Arsenal have been topping Liverpool teams hamstrung by negative managerial tactics, if they top us next year it will be more on merit in my eyes, and not by default on Liverpools part.
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Apart from the first line, I think that's the most well thought out post I've ever seen from you.
The truth is though, nobody knows how next season will pan out until games have actually been played. Dalglish was a good manager, however a lot has changed since he was last in management and it'll be interesting to see what happens over the course of a full season. Will the Kop turn on him like they did Woy & Rafa if Liverpool go through a bad spell? What happens when the excitement/jubilation of having King Kenny back wears off? What happens if one or 2 of his players become disgruntled with life at Anfield - can he manage them in a similar way to how Ferguson managed Rooney, or will it create a dressing room rift?
Nobody knows! So let's wait and see, eh lads?
Its very obvious to everyone (apart from United fans) that the team are now playing at the standard they should be under Kenny. It was for half a season, not just a blip.
You also forget that you DONT beat us 2x out of 3...not sure where you got that statistic from.
We can go back 10 years to make it a fair comparison.
There have been 26 games in the last 10 years between Liverpool and United. Liverpool have won 14, United have won 14, drawn 2
If you want to go more recent as United fans always talk about the present, In the last 6 Prem games, Liverpool have won 4, United 2...so as you can see....you dont beat us 2x out of 3
Nice little artcile on City as a club in the last few weeks and also relates to all the chat on here of history etc
Over the last few years, since the takeover of the club, Manchester City fans have had to endure taunts of ‘lacking class and history.’ The second taunt is beyond laughable, especially as it generally came from Spurs fans, who support a club that has won precisely the same number of league titles as City – two.
In any case, history can not be defined merely by trophies won. Who can honestly say that clubs such as Fulham, the oldest club in London lest we forget, have no history simply because they have not won a trophy? This argument is specious and patronising.
But class? That’s harder to quantify. However, class was what was on display on Saturday at the FA Cup Final between Manchester City and Stoke City and during Tuesday’s league game between the two sides at Eastlands. At Wembley there was mutual respect – in contrast to the aftermath of City’s semi-final against Manchester United there were no roving groups of losing fans targeting young and elderly Manchester City fans after the game.
And prior to the match on Tuesday, Manchester City announced they would not be parading the FA Cup in deference to Stoke City’s feelings. It was a magnanimous gesture and one mirrored before and after the game by City fans not only applauding Stoke City’s travelling contingent but their team too. There was no rubbing Stoke’s fans noses in the dirt of defeat.
Contrast this with Manchester United’s fans obsession with THAT banner, numbering the years Manchester City went without a trophy. Now they have to remove it, there are rumours that it will be replaced with one counting the years since City last won the league. Such class. And United fans have the nerve to call City fans bitter.
City fans, however, couldn’t give a hoot. Put it up, lads – because it certainly won’t be long before you’ll be taking it down again.
Over the last few years, since the takeover of the club, Manchester City fans have had to endure taunts of ‘lacking class and history.’ The second taunt is beyond laughable, especially as it generally came from Spurs fans, who support a club that has won precisely the same number of league titles as City – two.
In any case, history can not be defined merely by trophies won. Who can honestly say that clubs such as Fulham, the oldest club in London lest we forget, have no history simply because they have not won a trophy? This argument is specious and patronising.
But class? That’s harder to quantify. However, class was what was on display on Saturday at the FA Cup Final between Manchester City and Stoke City and during Tuesday’s league game between the two sides at Eastlands. At Wembley there was mutual respect – in contrast to the aftermath of City’s semi-final against Manchester United there were no roving groups of losing fans targeting young and elderly Manchester City fans after the game.
And prior to the match on Tuesday, Manchester City announced they would not be parading the FA Cup in deference to Stoke City’s feelings. It was a magnanimous gesture and one mirrored before and after the game by City fans not only applauding Stoke City’s travelling contingent but their team too. There was no rubbing Stoke’s fans noses in the dirt of defeat.
Contrast this with Manchester United’s fans obsession with THAT banner, numbering the years Manchester City went without a trophy. Now they have to remove it, there are rumours that it will be replaced with one counting the years since City last won the league. Such class. And United fans have the nerve to call City fans bitter.
City fans, however, couldn’t give a hoot. Put it up, lads – because it certainly won’t be long before you’ll be taking it down again.
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I almost don't know where to start! How about numbers
1. 2 out of 3 was this seasons games
2. In those 10 years how many premierships did you win?
Your trouble and it affects most scousers is you put TOO MUCH emphasis on head to heads with united.
So you put everything into those games and then go and lose to westham. I don't even regard those matches as such a big deal anymore, thats just tribal bs it doesnt win the league
3. like many liverpool fans you are 2 faced about your managers and players
Rafa and Houlier brought many trophies to liverpool now all you do is slag them off
4. What big 3 or 4 players are gonna sign up for NO champs league thats why Torres left and likely Mascherano as well
You like your team play on emotion alone, that wins the odd cup but not the premiership
I almost don't know where to start! How about numbers
1. 2 out of 3 was this seasons games
2. In those 10 years how many premierships did you win?
Your trouble and it affects most scousers is you put TOO MUCH emphasis on head to heads with united.
So you put everything into those games and then go and lose to westham. I don't even regard those matches as such a big deal anymore, thats just tribal bs it doesnt win the league
3. like many liverpool fans you are 2 faced about your managers and players
Rafa and Houlier brought many trophies to liverpool now all you do is slag them off
4. What big 3 or 4 players are gonna sign up for NO champs league thats why Torres left and likely Mascherano as well
You like your team play on emotion alone, that wins the odd cup but not the premiership
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obmcfc, you missed the last sentence from that article. Let me quote it for you:
Classy ending to an article about class written by a City fan.
Classy ending to an article about class written by a City fan.
NO actually. I've never been two faced about Houllier and Benitez. When each of them first arrived, I was like everyone else and prepared to give them a chance. It didn't take very long to see that the statistcs based "painting by numbers" football they played was not acceptable.
I was very vociferous about this in the year Benitez won 3 trophies (some idiots claim 5) and before. Simply because I believe that football should be about excitement. One thing I've always begrudgingly conceded about Ferguson is that he plays to win, which is what it's all about.
As for big 3 or 4 players....we don't need "superstars", just very good players who play for the team. That's the old Liverpool way, which was pretty successful.
No team can win consistently on emotion alone, don't assume to know what I think. Winning Liverpool teams were based on great teamwork, Attack in packs defend in packs. That sort of thing.
I left it off as it was a personal insult to him and didn't think the article warranted that type of ending to be honest
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It didn't warrant that type of ending, but the author is clearly a City fan and it needs noting that he ended the article in that way; what would have been classy would have been to not end the article in the way he did. As it is, he's ruined a good article in one line.
It also seems that City fans have a massive problem with that banner, and are more obsessed by it than United fans are!
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