As said previously, put your hand in there, you should be able to get fingers under the edge of the siphon, and gently lift the plunger until the rod appears back though the hole.
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Or maybe a metal coat hanger with something soft on the end like blue tack?
Will that work if water is present? Might be a handy trick to keep in the book.
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one thing that can be really useful in circumstatnces like these are forceps/blood clamps.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amtech-R07...ocphy=9050362&hvtargid=pla-427796145591&psc=1
I have used them to hold electronics bits and motorcycle parts in the past but as the will lock onto a small area quite tightly they help a lot in getting small objects out of tricky places.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amtech-R07...ocphy=9050362&hvtargid=pla-427796145591&psc=1
I have used them to hold electronics bits and motorcycle parts in the past but as the will lock onto a small area quite tightly they help a lot in getting small objects out of tricky places.
Thanks folks. I'm not sure if the photo is a bit rubbish, but actually the gap between the rod and its white plastic surround is about 1mm, and there is practically no gap between the white plastic (which also lifts up) and its brown surroundings. So gripping onto it with forceps/nail files etc is unfortunately not possible. Also the whole thing is sort of recessed about an inch which makes things harder (that's what she said).
Similarly, the gap between the syphon and the base of the cistern is so small, I can just about barely fit a metal wire in, let alone fingers, but I can't see how I would get a peice of wire with a "hook" end to fit and face upwards etc.
It's really frustrating that they would make it this way. We had a plumber years ago who looked at it and said, its Armitage Shanks, high quality etc. Well I don't know about high quality but from my amateur point of view, I'd say it's a sh*t design!
I'm currently looking at acquiring a good magnet. I did previously think about using one of those extendible pen magnets for getting screws out of car engines, but I need to look for it and I suspect it's definitely not strong enough.
Cheers for all the input fellas. If anyone knows about magnets or strong glue then pls drop me a reply
Similarly, the gap between the syphon and the base of the cistern is so small, I can just about barely fit a metal wire in, let alone fingers, but I can't see how I would get a peice of wire with a "hook" end to fit and face upwards etc.
It's really frustrating that they would make it this way. We had a plumber years ago who looked at it and said, its Armitage Shanks, high quality etc. Well I don't know about high quality but from my amateur point of view, I'd say it's a sh*t design!
I'm currently looking at acquiring a good magnet. I did previously think about using one of those extendible pen magnets for getting screws out of car engines, but I need to look for it and I suspect it's definitely not strong enough.
Cheers for all the input fellas. If anyone knows about magnets or strong glue then pls drop me a reply
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The shaft is plastic ,put a small thin screw into it and pull it up . if you can drill a pilot hole with a very small diameter ,maybe 1.5 mm drill bit,first ,and only a couple of mm deep,do so.
I meant to use it underneath the syphon to push it up... The blue tack to stop the wire puncturing the diaphragm... I didn't mean that the blue tack would stick to the plunger and pull it up... If that's what you thought I meant?
Thanks folks. I'm not sure if the photo is a bit rubbish, but actually the gap between the rod and its white plastic surround is about 1mm, and there is practically no gap between the white plastic (which also lifts up) and its brown surroundings. So gripping onto it with forceps/nail files etc is unfortunately not possible. Also the whole thing is sort of recessed about an inch which makes things harder (that's what she said).
Similarly, the gap between the syphon and the base of the cistern is so small, I can just about barely fit a metal wire in, let alone fingers, but I can't see how I would get a peice of wire with a "hook" end to fit and face upwards etc.
It's really frustrating that they would make it this way. We had a plumber years ago who looked at it and said, its Armitage Shanks, high quality etc. Well I don't know about high quality but from my amateur point of view, I'd say it's a sh*t design!
I'm currently looking at acquiring a good magnet. I did previously think about using one of those extendible pen magnets for getting screws out of car engines, but I need to look for it and I suspect it's definitely not strong enough.
Cheers for all the input fellas. If anyone knows about magnets or strong glue then pls drop me a reply
You can get a tiny drill bit that will drill into the metal rod. Try doing this with no water in the cistern which should release any vacuum and make it easier to pull it up.
Isn't it amazing the different number of methods that can be thought of to try and fix something that would cost a fiver and half an hour to replace
Isn't it amazing the different number of methods that can be thought of to try and fix something that would cost a fiver and half an hour to replace
Heath Robinson would be proud
Isn't it amazing the different number of methods that can be thought of to try and fix something that would cost a fiver and half an hour to replace
Two things to say to that:
1. All these methods, while they are very creative and much appreciated, aren't sufficient, otherwise I wouldn't still be asking. I just tried a strong magnet and had no luck, the only one left to try is drilling the plastic.
2. it wouldn't take half an hour to replace, because firstly I don't have the technical knowledge that you have, so I would be figuring it out as I go along. I need to go to the shop and find the right replacement doughnut as YOU said above. And as I said previously, I may need to use an *angle grinder* (according to YOU) which I don't have and have never used. I would have to go buy one of these and try and fit into a small place, and figure out how to use it effectively. And you say this is "half an hour" and "costs a fiver"? Maybe for you, Mr. Expert, but not me, that's why I'm here. That's why I'd rather find a creative way to lift a rod that is stuck in a recessed position.
Mr @DIYfronts , please get off your high horse.
That wasn't directed at you, nor your level of expertise .... rather at the guys on here, as the pro's on here know and why it was 'liked'. It was just a general comment on how many different ideas the lads can come up with, when there's a little challenging thing like that. In plumbing it can sometime be the strangest things used to fix strange problems
At the end of the day when people take/read things the wrong way on here, I don't really care, it's up to you what you do and what advice you use to fix your toilet.
That wasn't directed at you, nor your level of expertise .... rather at the guys on here, as the pro's on here know and why it was 'liked'. It was just a general comment on how many different ideas the lads can come up with, when there's a little challenging thing like that. In plumbing it can sometime be the strangest things used to fix strange problems
At the end of the day when people take/read things the wrong way on here, I don't really care, it's up to you what you do and what advice you use to fix your toilet.
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