read it all,im talking bout guy on here whos full of more knowlage than anyone else,not the installers.while we are on bout installers who are hetas,they are self regulated so???????????????
read it all,im talking bout guy on here whos full of more knowlage than anyone else,not the installers.while we are on bout installers who are hetas,they are self regulated so???????????????
Steamerpoint";p="2569871 said:Nice try FiremanT.
! The bottom line is that they have no more overheads than a plumber, sparky, heating engineer and the like, and yet they charge double!!
I am not sure how they can justify this.
If a HETAS engineer has overheads that are greater than £15,000 a year I would be truly amazed and would say on record that they are probably lying. (Unless they own a large firm and are coving the costs of many engineers and have other staff, but then the turnover would be much, much higher also.)
Just for the record, a HETAS engineer is popping over to see me on Sunday morning, so I guess they do work every day then!
The bottom line is that they charge double (Or more) than all other building or domestic trades and well done to them. I am just annoyed that I am also about to fund their lavish lifestyle.
quote] You just gotta love them I`ve just done a solid fuel rayburn replacement - 28 mm primaries , on the rusty old Hilmor , replaced a rad that wasn`t working because it had 1/2" tappings ( stuck a 3/4" tapped cast iron job on instead ) renewed a load of galvy iron ( H+C supplies) Just wish I could`ve charged the £1200 the Hetas bod did to line a 6m. flue and connect to the smokebox - but then it`s just pocket money for me and keeps my hand in
Steamerpoint";p="2569871 said:Nice try FiremanT.
60% profit is still a lot of profit at £400 a day (Double what heating engineers and plumbers charge) and at this rate they can still afford to take half the month off sick and still earn the same as a plumber who works the whole month!!
As a GS RGI, I, personally, don't PLAN to work for only £200 per day, although it very often happens! Most plumbers and certainky gas guys are the same. If I was working a contract which guaranteed me a full working day, with no evenings spent quoting (or Sunday mornings - see below) and organising books etc, I would work for less.
You forget that I am self employed, run my own business, have large overheads and expenses
Why would you imagine I forget anything?
(can't take holidays or sick days,[/i]
Well, I suggest that you seek alternative employment. No one should have to work every week wih no holidays. But you are earning greater than £42K.
so please don't tell me the life of a HETAS engineer is all costs, hard work and no fun!
I don't actually recall me or anyone else suggesting anything of the sort!
The simple truth is that HETAS engineers are ripping off the general public because they can! Don't get me wrong, I would probably do exactly the same if I was in that position,
Mmm. So your thread is purely sour grapes?
but any HETAS engineer that tries to justify these prices is having a laugh. If they are not earning enough from a £400 a day salary, they need to have a good look at their business model
Who said they are nort earning enough?
A two man team that can charge £1000 a day (I have had quotes of £550 per person per day - £1100 a day plus parts) for labour are bringing in £132,000 a year EACH, if they only work 5-days a week and don't have holidays
I think you would find they enjoy VERY NICE holidays
or sick days
if you are sick, you are sick. Don't climb a roof with a broken leg, is my advice,
a tax accountant (Which is actually a saving because accountants save more money than they cost)
Actually, ann accountant will help you pay less than you otherwise would. Quite different from SAVING.
They should also be VAT registered so everything they buy is VAT deductable and tax deductable. Phone calls, diesel, servicing costs, stationary, protective clothing, tools etc. Even that van and the indemnity insurance is tax deductable.
Normal misunderstanding. VAT registration ALWAYS costs, unless you sell mainly food, kids clothing or renewables.
Just for the record, a HETAS engineer is popping over to see me on Sunday morning, so I guess they do work every day then!
I'm guessing you are too busy to see him during the week. And you will pick his brains for a few hours on a Sunday, and he won't earn a bean. And if you do give him the job, remember that those hours have to be added to the job hours when you write here to complain about his charges.
I would remind you that I have acknowledged that HETAS guys are doing well, charge a lot, and take advantage of the market. But so do log suppliers.
Anyway, why have a messy woodburner, when convenient and efficient gas fires and stoves are available?