Housing benefit scrapped for under 25's
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Send them all to jeremy kyle he'll tell them GET OFF YOUR A**E AND GET A JOB.
Just trying to keep them at home with the folks cos there's no jobs anyway...or if there are it's minimum wage pish and the pay wouldn't cover living costs.
Funny a 16 yr old can marry or join up to go kill people for oil in a foreign land, yet can't see an 18 film, got to the pub or smoke.
We have a minimum wage structure that is unfair, geared for exploitation and has 3 stages from 16-21, and an even worse apprentice rate which is diabolical.
Anyone 16 or over working should get paid the same rate for the same job, it's sheer discrimination that's all.
Good old tory tactic of divide and rule, get the working poor to turn on the unworking poor while them multi millionaire c*nts are sitting back quaffing champagne and laughing at us mugs....
Wake up FFS.....
Funny a 16 yr old can marry or join up to go kill people for oil in a foreign land, yet can't see an 18 film, got to the pub or smoke.
We have a minimum wage structure that is unfair, geared for exploitation and has 3 stages from 16-21, and an even worse apprentice rate which is diabolical.
Anyone 16 or over working should get paid the same rate for the same job, it's sheer discrimination that's all.
Good old tory tactic of divide and rule, get the working poor to turn on the unworking poor while them multi millionaire c*nts are sitting back quaffing champagne and laughing at us mugs....
Wake up FFS.....
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Workers
Absolutely agree. What is being missed is the ones who have paid tax and insurance who are entitled to assistance. What is this going to do to them?
You can take out insurances but they only last for so long. Is it fair someone who has worked all their life is now being told to sell their house. Because this is what will happen.
By all means keep immigration down, this will release the housing stock for our children.
Also give more jobs and hopefully the minimum wage will increase. Its time this country assisted our youngsters not penalised them.
You can take out insurances but they only last for so long. Is it fair someone who has worked all their life is now being told to sell their house. Because this is what will happen.
By all means keep immigration down, this will release the housing stock for our children.
Also give more jobs and hopefully the minimum wage will increase. Its time this country assisted our youngsters not penalised them.
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Someone I know had a sprog, and was living with her parents.
They have a 4 bedroom house, so hardly living like sardines (my parents raised me in a 1 bedroom flat).
They gave her and her sprog a 2 bedroom flat. The bedrooms are the size of my living room, she has a storage cupboard bigger than my second bedroom.
The welfare system was supposed to be a safety net, not this!
They have a 4 bedroom house, so hardly living like sardines (my parents raised me in a 1 bedroom flat).
They gave her and her sprog a 2 bedroom flat. The bedrooms are the size of my living room, she has a storage cupboard bigger than my second bedroom.
The welfare system was supposed to be a safety net, not this!
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joinerjohn
Di, I think you miss the point. Many teenage girls get a house simply because they have a baby. They move straight up the housing queue. Single young men can't go to the top of the housing queue in the same way, can they ?
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EddieM
It's just political hot air, trying to appeal to the Daily Mail reading classes. Totally unworkable, what if the parents don't want their adult "child" to move back (notwithstanding the abusive household issue) the parents can't be forced to accept them back.
Load of Tory codswallop. I'll tell you how you can reduce benefits. Make politicians understand there is a country outside london, that has been run down, neglected and had little to no investment, encourage jobs and regeneration in those areas, providing a range of jobs that are appealing to the young (and not so young) of both sexes, not just daft call centre work, menial jobs, or service industry jobs, all of which while necessary, provide no income into the country.
Load of Tory codswallop. I'll tell you how you can reduce benefits. Make politicians understand there is a country outside london, that has been run down, neglected and had little to no investment, encourage jobs and regeneration in those areas, providing a range of jobs that are appealing to the young (and not so young) of both sexes, not just daft call centre work, menial jobs, or service industry jobs, all of which while necessary, provide no income into the country.
Was it on Have I Got News For You, where they mentioned a well known mobile company had used their tricks to get out of paying £6 Billion in taxes, or did I dream it? I am sure Ian Hislopp pointed out that this £6 Billion was about the same as the budget cuts the Governemtn has announced this year. If thats the case then surely a bigger problem than scroungers is the rich (people and companies alike) using creative accounting to avoid tax?
The whole point is that these 16-25 year-olds don't immediately become a burden on the state.
They will learn the concept of fending for themselves. There will be the private sector to rent from if they can't stay at home.
The added "bonus" is that parents will learn some parental responsibility and be responsible for their kids
If you knew how the current system worked then you would see how easy it is to play, and to get a council place. But people leaving school need to learn that they need to look after themselves and not rely on handouts and free housing all their lives
There are people, families who have been affected by the economic situation and have lost or will their home. People who have worked and not relied on the state. Now the waiting lists for social housing are massive - partly because of no past investment, but mainly because the housing is given to young people straight from school who have contributed nothing and are then trapped in this lifestyle
Likewise, people willing to try, willing to work and contribute are denied housing to give them a start, because its full of others doing nothing but constantly living off the state
It certainly is not simple, and there are many other social issues to address. But the main point is that young people should not think for a moment that they have a "right" to get a property and live off the state straight from school. And parents will also need to take responsibility for the kids they have
The welfare state has been looking after people for far too long, instead of its purpose of assisting them. People know that, and are playing it
This is why the welfare state is a cancer.
Once something is given, it is hard to take away.
People used to have to support themselves, or stay with there parents, now that a benefit exists to avoid this, it is seen as a RIGHT that must not be removed.
**** family values, **** society, that's what our welfare system is doing.
The welfare system was to be a safety net, not a lifestyle.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...ne-and-the-6-billion-tax-bill-that-never-was/
And more recent
http://timworstall.com/2012/06/18/most-fun-about-vodafones-taxes/
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peaps2
Any chance you can back up your statement? I for one would be interested to see the stat that shows school leavers are getting all the social housing places.
Nobody is claiming they are, so don't be silly.
It's a rather obvious point though, teach em when they are young to rely on themselves and their family FIRST, not benefits.
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The bottom line is that benefit scroungers breed benefit scroungers, just like pigs breed pigs. Put a pig in a palace but it will still be a pig. As long as they are making a career of popping out kids to all and sundry it will never be sorted.
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