How do I lay vinyl flooring over wood parquet tiles

[joe-90]

Well, it's all ordered now. The NICF Master Fitter is booked for 1st Sep (next available slot) and will lay the screed sometime before. Will have to get cracking soon to empty rooms etc....

Thanks.

How much is he charging you?

 

[dodger007]

Well, it's all done now and the fitter made an excellent job aligning the tile patterns in all three areas. I just left him to it as he has been laying felt-backed for years - even on parquet flooring! I noticed he used double sided tape in some strategic areas - edges between rooms, and used a spray adhesive for most other edges. Interestingly he also sealed all edges with clear silicone afterwards.

So anyway, job done and it looks great. More importantly the Mrs. is very pleased too!

Joe90 - I don't think costs should be discussed on an open forum but if you PM me I'll let you know.

 

[mattysupra]

he has been laying felt-backed for years - even on parquet flooring!

Intresting, you do realise that felt backed vinyl is a new product to the market. It has not been out for years ....

 

[dodger007]

he has been laying felt-backed for years - even on parquet flooring!

interesting, you do realise that felt backed vinyl is a new product to the market. It has not been out for years ....

Really Matty? The surveyor said it's been around a number of years, and the fitter said he's laid quite a bit of it too.

(sorry for the delay in reply)

 

[Robbo271]

Hi,
Just wondering if you found a final solution to this problem and has it worked?
We are in exactly the same position and are being told we cannot lay rubber backed vinyl over parquet flooring in our kitchen...

We need to lay vinyl flooring in our kitchen+diner and utility room (next to the kitchen). The kitchen and utility room have just had a make-over of new worktops, doors, drawers etc. and the current flooring just does not go now. The kitchen has parquet tiles over quarry tiles/concrete which I laid 30 yrs ago. The dining area also has parquet tiles laid around 10/15 yrs ago. The utility room currently has vinyl flooring over concrete (which is not perfectly flat). I am not prepared to lift up the parquet flooring - in the kitchen they go under the units and there's NO WAY I can get these up. I have had two companies around to quote for vinyl flooring (Amtico/Karndean tiles too expensive). One was concerned with the slight ridges in the parquet and the uneven utility area. He suggested removing old vinyl and re-screeding with self-leveling compound. OK. Then lay vinyl over new screed and over the parquet in kitchen/diner. The other company refused to lay over the parquet but did suggest felt-backed vinyl OVER the existing in the utility area.

I'm stumped. Researching this tonight I discover that laying ply over wood flooring is recommended as a substrate before laying vinyl. But ply is 'wood' isn't it? I get the feeling that this is just to iron out the 'bumps' - well my parquet floor is very flat. So why can't I lay vinyl straight on top?

Can anybody help?

 

[dodger007]

Hi,
Just wondering if you found a final solution to this problem and has it worked?
We are in exactly the same position and are being told we cannot lay rubber backed vinyl over parquet flooring in our kitchen...

We need to lay vinyl flooring in our kitchen+diner and utility room (next to the kitchen). The kitchen and utility room have just had a make-over of new worktops, doors, drawers etc. and the current flooring just does not go now. The kitchen has parquet tiles over quarry tiles/concrete which I laid 30 yrs ago. The dining area also has parquet tiles laid around 10/15 yrs ago. The utility room currently has vinyl flooring over concrete (which is not perfectly flat). I am not prepared to lift up the parquet flooring - in the kitchen they go under the units and there's NO WAY I can get these up. I have had two companies around to quote for vinyl flooring (Amtico/Karndean tiles too expensive). One was concerned with the slight ridges in the parquet and the uneven utility area. He suggested removing old vinyl and re-screeding with self-leveling compound. OK. Then lay vinyl over new screed and over the parquet in kitchen/diner. The other company refused to lay over the parquet but did suggest felt-backed vinyl OVER the existing in the utility area.

I'm stumped. Researching this tonight I discover that laying ply over wood flooring is recommended as a substrate before laying vinyl. But ply is 'wood' isn't it? I get the feeling that this is just to iron out the 'bumps' - well my parquet floor is very flat. So why can't I lay vinyl straight on top?

Can anybody help?

Yes I did find a solution. "Felt-Backed Vinyl" - it was recommended by a flooring specialist who had been using it for a few years. It's now been laid in our kitchen/Diner and Utility room for over three years now and is absolutely fine. They also use it over ceramic tiles - the felt layer helps it 'breathe'.

 

[Robbo271]

Hi,
Just wondering if you found a final solution to this problem and has it worked?
We are in exactly the same position and are being told we cannot lay rubber backed vinyl over parquet flooring in our kitchen...

We need to lay vinyl flooring in our kitchen+diner and utility room (next to the kitchen). The kitchen and utility room have just had a make-over of new worktops, doors, drawers etc. and the current flooring just does not go now. The kitchen has parquet tiles over quarry tiles/concrete which I laid 30 yrs ago. The dining area also has parquet tiles laid around 10/15 yrs ago. The utility room currently has vinyl flooring over concrete (which is not perfectly flat). I am not prepared to lift up the parquet flooring - in the kitchen they go under the units and there's NO WAY I can get these up. I have had two companies around to quote for vinyl flooring (Amtico/Karndean tiles too expensive). One was concerned with the slight ridges in the parquet and the uneven utility area. He suggested removing old vinyl and re-screeding with self-leveling compound. OK. Then lay vinyl over new screed and over the parquet in kitchen/diner. The other company refused to lay over the parquet but did suggest felt-backed vinyl OVER the existing in the utility area.

I'm stumped. Researching this tonight I discover that laying ply over wood flooring is recommended as a substrate before laying vinyl. But ply is 'wood' isn't it? I get the feeling that this is just to iron out the 'bumps' - well my parquet floor is very flat. So why can't I lay vinyl straight on top?

Can anybody help?

Yes I did find a solution. "Felt-Backed Vinyl" - it was recommended by a flooring specialist who had been using it for a few years. It's now been laid in our kitchen/Diner and Utility room for over three years now and is absolutely fine. They also use it over ceramic tiles - the felt layer helps it 'breathe'. [/quote

Thank you very much, a super quick response too!

 

[crazydaze]

Whilst this would appear to have worked in this situation, Matty was absolutely correct to try and explain how the job should be fitted. Felt back vinyl is not a miracle product and is susceptible to bleed through of the flooring iunderneath as well as showing uneven areas if the subfloor is not level. A further option could possibly be to prep the floor with F-Ball Isolator, this is simple and quick to lay, then ANY vinyl could be laid over the top still allowing the floor to breath and resolving minor levelling issues. When you are selecting your vinyl, hold a sample up to the light, you will be able to see shadows through it easily, even with a felt back. A product called Imprezzo may be an answer if you can find a colour i their limited ranging, it's an LTV similar in quality to Karndean, Amtico and Camaro but it fits in It's own underlay system, well worth looking at the install vid on YouTube as its definitely a DIYable product if you fancy a challenge.

 

[Robbo271]

Whilst this would appear to have worked in this situation, Matty was absolutely correct to try and explain how the job should be fitted. Felt back vinyl is not a miracle product and is susceptible to bleed through of the flooring iunderneath as well as showing uneven areas if the subfloor is not level. A further option could possibly be to prep the floor with F-Ball Isolator, this is simple and quick to lay, then ANY vinyl could be laid over the top still allowing the floor to breath and resolving minor levelling issues. When you are selecting your vinyl, hold a sample up to the light, you will be able to see shadows through it easily, even with a felt back. A product called Imprezzo may be an answer if you can find a colour i their limited ranging, it's an LTV similar in quality to Karndean, Amtico and Camaro but it fits in It's own underlay system, well worth looking at the install vid on YouTube as its definitely a DIYable product if you fancy a challenge.

Thanks for this info crazydaze we are now looking at this option as well because the vinyl I really wanted in the first place isn't available in feltback. We will be in touch with F.Ball company.