Ideal boiler, non Ideal thermostat?

[SJRSJR]

Hello

I have an Ideal Atlantic 35W boiler, which although new in 2022 wasn’t fitted with a thermostat. I’d now like to fit an app based one.

Ideal Heating say I need a Halo Combi Thermostat 222142 and a Smart Interface 227156. I assume that’s their own kit and I wonder how it compares to Hive/Nest/Tado?

What would I need to get if I didn’t want to use the Halo one? Thanks

 

[cross thread]

All the hive ,nest etc are ok and relatively easy to install. See what suits your needs.

 

[SJRSJR]

Thanks. I was worried that Atlantic wouldn’t be compatible because I read it was a basic boiler but the manual mentions Opentherm so I’m guessing it is. I’ll look at all the reviews.

 

[RandomGrinch]

Unlike many modern boilers, the wiring of the Ideal can be accessed from behind the control panel, without having to remove the boilers front panel.
This allows a competent DIY'er to install a stat without needing an RGI to check it afterwards.
It also supports OpenTherm, so you can benefit from better control of the modulation, without being stuck with a Halo.

 

[SJRSJR]

Thanks, that’s good to know.

 

[SJRSJR]

I have ´traditional’ TRVs on the rads. I’m wondering if smart TRVs will screw on to them?

 

[RandomGrinch]

I have ´traditional’ TRVs on the rads. I’m wondering if smart TRVs will screw on to them?

I'm afraid I don't know.
Smart TRVs do have a range of adapters available for them, but these tend to be for more conventional TRV replacements.
And a smart TRV certainly won't have the same aesthetic!

If you are interested in a control system that supports smart TRV's and OpenTherm; Wiser and Tado both seem well regarded.

 

[SJRSJR]

Thanks RandomGrinch, I hadn’t heard of Wiser so will check them out

 

[Stuckinarut]

Unlike many modern boilers, the wiring of the Ideal can be accessed from behind the control panel, without having to remove the boilers front panel.

Are you sure about that mate? Had a quick butchers at the manual, and looks like the cover need to be removed, which appears to be part of the combustion circuit.

 

[Stuckinarut]

Thanks RandomGrinch, I hadn’t heard of Wiser so will check them out

Drayton Wiser part of Schneider group.

 

[RandomGrinch]

Are you sure about that mate? Had a quick butchers at the manual, and looks like the cover need to be removed, which appears to be part of the combustion circuit.

Not 100%, because the manual isn't entirely clear.
However, according to the diagram, it would be physically impossible to remove the cover screws, without the control panel being out of the way

 

[Stuckinarut]

Not 100%, because the manual isn't entirely clear.
However, according to the diagram, it would be physically impossible to remove the cover screws, without the control panel being out of the way

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That looks like it’s a combustion circuit type, as normally the non type have a separate cover for gaining access to the combustion chamber/burner. Ideal are known for having a porous burner too, so could be a potential problem.

 

[RandomGrinch]

That looks like it’s a combustion circuit type, as normally the non type have a separate cover for gaining access to the combustion chamber/burner. Ideal are known for having a porous burner too, so could be a potential problem.

Sorry, I think you're missing my point!
The front panel lifts off from slots on the boiler top. Screws fix through the panel fixings (highlighted in red), into the threaded holes (highlighted blue).

It would be impossible to reach the screws to remove the front panel, if the control panel couldn't be moved out of the way.

 

[RandomGrinch]

@Stuckinarut ..found a video (from @1:45)