Is there a god?

[joe-90]

But were too dumb to say it.

 

[ajstoneservices]

Couldn't be ar$ed to point out the obvious

 

[joe-90]

No. You are too stupid for that.

 

[ajstoneservices]

face it mate, you're better at asking question as the answer always eludes you.

 

[joe-90]

Whereas you are too dumb to ask them.

 

[ajstoneservices]

Nah, I'm too busy earning a living unlike you.

Hold tight. Gotta pop out to price a job but I'll come back and tease you a little later

 

[breadnbutter]

How can a universe expand? What is it expanding into?

Well obviously the universe is flat and we'll all fall over the edge one day!!

when the bible talks,about the four corners of the earth its not referring to its shape. But the compass, north,south east,and west.



also

Isaiah 40:22
English Standard Version (ESV)
22 It is he who sits above the CIRCLE of the earth,
and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers;
who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;


also:
who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, = expanding universe
and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;

 

[joe-90]

Nah, I'm too busy earning a living unlike you.

Hold tight. Gotta pop out to price a job but I'll come back and tease you a little later

Promises promises.

 

[enyam]

How can a universe expand? What is it expanding into?

Well obviously the universe is flat and we'll all fall over the edge one day!!

when the bible talks,about the four corners of the earth its not referring to its shape. But the compass, north,south east,and west.

Somebody invented the spirit level just to be on the safe side though.

 

[Dazed14]

I am an agnostic. On balance it would appear (to me) that the universe cannot be an accident. If it is - then who or what lit the blue touch paper and stood back and watched..

Given this statement, then I think "Deist" would more accurately reflect your views. At a stretch I'd let you have "agnostic Deist"

No. My views exactly mirror Einstein's (who I didn't know had such views until the other day).

"Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations."

Einstein, whilst undoubtedly a brilliant mind in the field of Theoretical Physics, was unfortunately in the same boat as all of us when it comes to the subject of Theology. What I mean to say is, he was clueless, he didn't know diddly. His views were his alone and have no bearing on the validity of any theological ideas.

Agnosticism, derived from the Greek words "a" & "gnosis", meaning, without knowledge. That's fine but then you qualify that with the belief that "something" and let's be honest, you mean a god (what else could you mean), lit the blue touch paper and kicked it all off.

If you believe that "something" carried on interfering with the world, that's Theism, if you think it stopped right there, that's Deism.

I would describe myself as an agnostic atheist. Obviously there is no way to ever know for sure if there is or isn't a god or gods, but given all the evidence available to me, I have come to the conclusion that gods have never existed and do not exist now in any form. I am however open to being proved wrong. Should anyone come along with what I would consider compelling evidence, I would change my mind.

 

[breadnbutter]

How can a universe expand? What is it expanding into?

Well obviously the universe is flat and we'll all fall over the edge one day!!

when the bible talks,about the four corners of the earth its not referring to its shape. But the compass, north,south east,and west.

Somebody invented the spirit level just to be on the safe side though.

lol

 

[joe-90]

I am an agnostic. On balance it would appear (to me) that the universe cannot be an accident. If it is - then who or what lit the blue touch paper and stood back and watched..

Given this statement, then I think "Deist" would more accurately reflect your views. At a stretch I'd let you have "agnostic Deist"

No. My views exactly mirror Einstein's (who I didn't know had such views until the other day).

"Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations."

Einstein, whilst undoubtedly a brilliant mind in the field of Theoretical Physics, was unfortunately in the same boat as all of us when it comes to the subject of Theology. What I mean to say is, he was clueless, he didn't know diddly. His views were his alone and have no bearing on the validity of any theological ideas.

Agnosticism, derived from the Greek words "a" & "gnosis", meaning, without knowledge. That's fine but then you qualify that with the belief that "something" and let's be honest, you mean a god (what else could you mean), lit the blue touch paper and kicked it all off.

If you believe that "something" carried on interfering with the world, that's Theism, if you think it stopped right there, that's Deism.

I would describe myself as an agnostic atheist. Obviously there is no way to ever know for sure if there is or isn't a god or gods, but given all the evidence available to me, I have come to the conclusion that gods have never existed and do not exist now in any form. I am however open to being proved wrong. Should anyone come along with what I would consider compelling evidence, I would change my mind.

I think I'll stick with Albert's brain if it's all the same to you mate. You know nuffink.

 

[Dazed14]

I think I'll stick with Albert's brain if it's all the same to you mate. You know nuffink.

That's perfectly fine with me but I'll be sticking to thinking for myself, if that's ok with you.

Thanks for the chat, Mr Deist.

 

[joe-90]

You don't know and I don't know. I don't believe in a personal God, but there appears to be something beyond our comprehension. Eternity and infinity have no meanings to humans any more than next week does to a dog.
Did you read what my mate Albert wrote? Which bit did you disagree with?

 

[breadnbutter]

I am an agnostic. On balance it would appear (to me) that the universe cannot be an accident. If it is - then who or what lit the blue touch paper and stood back and watched..

Given this statement, then I think "Deist" would more accurately reflect your views. At a stretch I'd let you have "agnostic Deist"

No. My views exactly mirror Einstein's (who I didn't know had such views until the other day).

"Your question [about God] is the most difficult in the world. It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that sways the constellations."

Einstein, whilst undoubtedly a brilliant mind in the field of Theoretical Physics, was unfortunately in the same boat as all of us when it comes to the subject of Theology. What I mean to say is, he was clueless, he didn't know diddly. His views were his alone and have no bearing on the validity of any theological ideas.

Agnosticism, derived from the Greek words "a" & "gnosis", meaning, without knowledge. That's fine but then you qualify that with the belief that "something" and let's be honest, you mean a god (what else could you mean), lit the blue touch paper and kicked it all off.

If you believe that "something" carried on interfering with the world, that's Theism, if you think it stopped right there, that's Deism.

I would describe myself as an agnostic atheist. Obviously there is no way to ever know for sure if there is or isn't a god or gods, but given all the evidence available to me, I have come to the conclusion that gods have never existed and do not exist now in any form. I am however open to being proved wrong. Should anyone come along with what I would consider compelling evidence, I would change my mind.

on the christian forum,we have agnostic atheists,and all sorts and are welcome, and been there for months,even years, most probably know more about the bible than i do. and yet have not come to the knowledge of the truth.
only God,can truly draw someone to him, but he wont force someone,
they have to make there own decision.