Is there any point to this forum any more?

[handyjack]

If he mentions them he will instantly be a racist.

Only to

 

[transam]

If he mentions them he will instantly be a racist.

Exactly

He could not bring himself to mention these horrific "Cultural" )) practices ?

carried out were exactly ?

Do some of these "horrific cultural practices " occur in the U.K ? and by whom ? which culture ?

 

[transam]

Have these "horrific cultural" practices got any thing to do with religion ?

Or perhaps he means "horrific cultural" practices carried out by Surry men

 

[handyjack]

Have these "horrific cultural" practices got any thing to do with religion ?

Or perhaps he means "horrific cultural" practices carried out by Surry men

 

[Judy in the sky]

Additionally, some seem to take pride in their racially offensive behaviour.

Just as you seem to take pride in being offended on others behalf. Racism, etc is surely a two way street (and please don't tell me it's only us white people who can be racist)

 

[noseall]

What horrific cultural practices are those than ?

Google it.

 

[transam]

Google it.

I do not need to noseall , you might though ???

I know some one very close to me who has seen & witnessed these horrific cultural practices for years.

Some one who has probably witnessed & seen more suffering & mans inhumanity to man than most on here will ever know.

 

[HawkEye244]

The GD forum was never a perfect place but there used to be some interesting threads and conversations across a fairly wide range of subjects. Some were controversial, some went to epic proportions and certainly the odd insult was offered, but on the whole it was kept reasonably civil. All that has now gone. Every thread follows the same theme and ends up with the same half a dozen people throwing the same insults at each other. It never used to be like that so why does it need to be now? Here’s my thoughts;

Obsessive posting of anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, anti-everything-that-doesn’t-look-like-you propaganda isn’t particularly interesting or informative. It’s not that I’m unconcerned about immigration - In fact I am very much concerned about it - but it has to be kept in perspective. Immigrants have been coming to this Country for hundreds of years and we simply couldn’t survive (as a Country) without them. I think you misunderstand what ‘control of immigration’ means. An important subject that needs to be discussed sensibly can’t be discussed at all under constant bombardment of aggressive, across the board negativity about everything immigrant. It doesn’t add anything to the debate, it destroys it, reduces it to such a ridiculous base level that any discussion becomes pointless.

On the other hand, obsessiveness at the opposite end of the scale is equally damaging. Just look what it has achieved in this small forum. Inappropriate comments in the past were often ignored but very often challenged. I myself had a particular run in with Joe-you-know-who over his holocaust theories. In general though, overt racism was fairly low and mostly benign – certainly not the central theme of almost every thread. But that’s gone. What we have now are more extreme views expressed far more readily and far more aggressively. No debate, no discussion, just extreme bile, poison and abuse. Most of the people that brought reason to the GD forum have gone.

I’d like to debate immigration control. I’d like to debate the influence of certain minority groups who use the Islamic religion as an excuse to perpetrate hatred and crime. I’d like to debate the contribution of immigrants to the future of the UK. I’d like to debate Calais. But I can’t, because I know where it will go.

You won't find anywhere on the internet where there is political talk without people getting emotional so really all you've demonstrated by that post is a fair degree of naivety unfortunately.

The common tactic I see used on a lot of forums is political discussions are banned completely. You either allow discussion about all subjects and face the consequences of that which is always going to involve grown men spitting dummys at each other, or you ban the subject matter and anyone that posts about a political thread is banned along with it. You can't have your cake and eat it. It's like me saying I think everyone should be in better control of themselves, and you may agree, doesn't mean it's ever going to happen.

 

[noseall]

I do not need to noseall , you might though ???

I'm well up to date with human rights issues across the globe thanks.

 

[transam]

I'm well up to date with human rights issues across the globe thanks.

Glad to hear it

Incidentally what human rights issues are they than ? perhaps you need to educate some of us ?

 

[ajstoneservices]

Immigration, etc can be discussed, but sadly it can rarely, even never, be discussed without the invariable resort to racially offensive expressions.

It can, provided it is done so in a manner they meets with yours and JD's approval. I'm certain that much of the extreme views that are posted are done so because of you two and your attempts to shut down any talk of immigration.

Complaints about the way this forum has changed over the years make me laugh. This country has seen many of it's communities changed beyond anything anyone could have imagined before that **** Blair took power.

 

[noseall]

Incidentally what human rights issues are they than ? perhaps you need to educate some of us ?

fill ya boots. You can choose any country you like.

 

[ajstoneservices]

First few lines of that and I thought of Poland.

 

[noseall]

perhaps you need to educate some of us ?

I wish you could spell the word 'then'.

 

[transam]

fill ya boots. You can choose any country you like.

What about the U.K ? any "horrific cultural" practices ?