whats that got to do with islam ???
so 50 %or 8% in your example vote for there parliamentary representative 51% off whom would have to agree to muslim "requests"
and you think that will happen ???
whats that got to do with islam ???
so 50 %or 8% in your example vote for there parliamentary representative 51% off whom would have to agree to muslim "requests"
and you think that will happen ???
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Does anyone else feel like this?:
My main concerns in life are my wife, family, friends, myself and then my country.
This might sound selfish but all the other problems in the world are way down on my list of priorities. I don't really care how muslim women are treated or how they are not allowed to gain an education. I don't care about Afghanistan, Iraq, India, Africa, Syria, Turkey or indeed the bloke down the road. I don't care about Islam. Catholics, C of E, Hinduism or any other religion. I don't care about invasions or military coups, no b*gger would care about me roles reversed.
I really don't understand why we have to poke our noses in. If a foreign government is corrupt or contravenes human rights, so what, let their own people sort it out.
I don't wish anybody any harm and I wish that everyone on the planet could have a good life with plenty of food, water, wealth and freedom but despite what any of our governments do, that will never be the case so why do we have to be involved?
When I watch ads on tv showing people starving in Africa, of course I am upset by it but within 2 minutes I have forgotten about it and getting on with my own problems.
And before anyone starts calling me racist, sexist, selfish or what ever, I'm not, I'm just saying it as it is.
My main concerns in life are my wife, family, friends, myself and then my country.
This might sound selfish but all the other problems in the world are way down on my list of priorities. I don't really care how muslim women are treated or how they are not allowed to gain an education. I don't care about Afghanistan, Iraq, India, Africa, Syria, Turkey or indeed the bloke down the road. I don't care about Islam. Catholics, C of E, Hinduism or any other religion. I don't care about invasions or military coups, no b*gger would care about me roles reversed.
I really don't understand why we have to poke our noses in. If a foreign government is corrupt or contravenes human rights, so what, let their own people sort it out.
I don't wish anybody any harm and I wish that everyone on the planet could have a good life with plenty of food, water, wealth and freedom but despite what any of our governments do, that will never be the case so why do we have to be involved?
When I watch ads on tv showing people starving in Africa, of course I am upset by it but within 2 minutes I have forgotten about it and getting on with my own problems.
And before anyone starts calling me racist, sexist, selfish or what ever, I'm not, I'm just saying it as it is.
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longdogs
Yes exactly that mate. I would help anyone I could regardless of colour or religion but my family comes first and I don't see why other country's problems have to be my problem because Britain gets involved,
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Anyone who does not actually know that Islam is effectively taking over really needs to start using their independent thought process and stop being so naive.
While everyone sits round thinking everything is alright and we wouldn't let it happen etc...
You will ultimately have NO CHOICE your children by the time they have their kids will be living under Islamic rule.
The only thing allowing this to happen is Europes fascination with the Hulan rights act , political correctness and an inward looking parliament only concerned with votes at the next election and no strategy for the future or indeed any will to even try.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3692/belgium-erasing-christianity
While everyone sits round thinking everything is alright and we wouldn't let it happen etc...
You will ultimately have NO CHOICE your children by the time they have their kids will be living under Islamic rule.
The only thing allowing this to happen is Europes fascination with the Hulan rights act , political correctness and an inward looking parliament only concerned with votes at the next election and no strategy for the future or indeed any will to even try.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3692/belgium-erasing-christianity
Belgium this year . .
The UK next...
Below are headlines - get the actual links here http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/...hey-drive-a-belgian-family-out-of-their-home/
belgium-anti-islamists-vow-to-impeach-muslim-extremist-politicians
belgium-outraged-citizen-interrupts-swearing-in-ceremony-for-newly-elected-radical-islamist-councillor
belgium-newly-elected-representatives-of-the-islam-party-say-we-are-all-islamists
belgium-radical-muslims-move-closer-to-an-islamofascist-takeover-without-having-to-fire-a-shot
multicultural-brussels-where-white-women-cannot-walk-down-the-street-without-being-sexually-harassed-and-called-whoresby-muslims
belgium-leftist-protesters-scream-hamas-hamas-jews-to-the-gas
belgium-many-schools-are-virtually-empty-on-muslim-holidays
bad-news-for-belgium-40-of-students-are-muslims
belgium-trailer-for-immigration-invastion-the-new-colonization-documentary-narrated-by-conservative-politician-filip-dewinter
vlaams-belang-the-only-party-in-belgium-with-any-guts-creates-another-controversial-poster-campaing-against-muslim-immigrants
belgium-right-wing-groups-take-to-the-streets-shouting-non-assimilated-muslims-out-and-no-to-islamic-facism
muslim-jihadist-came-all-the-way-from-paris-just-to-stab-two-policemen-in-brussels
belgium-muslim-riots-break-out-after-muslim-baghead-refused-to-show-face-in-security-check-then-attacked-police-officers
belgium-baghead-bounty
belgistan-sharia-showdown-is-coming-to-brussels-but-it-looks-like-there-is-nothing-anyone-can-dowill-do-to-stop-it
belgium-politician-risks-muslim-backlash-after-using-teenage-daughter-dressed-in-burka-and-bikini-for-campaign-against-islam
belgium-daughter-of-right-wing-leader-filip-dewinter-dons-a-bikini-and-a-headbag-in-a-new-campaign-against-islamization
looks-like-brussels-could-become-the-new-capital-of-the-islamic-republic-of-eurabia
soon-the-flag-of-islam-will-fly-over-belgium-and-the-rest-of-europe-and-one-day-soon-over-the-white-house
belgium-five-muslim-girls-beat-up-a-jewish-classmate-calling-her-a-dirty-jew
belgium-radical-islamic-group-behind-opening-of-sharia-court-in-antwerp
good-news-from-belgium-anti-muslim-sentiment-higher-than-ever-before
belgium-raging-muslim-teens-go-wilding-in-the-streets-of-antwerp
belgium-muslim-scum-cover-up-a-cross-on-a-cathedral-with-the-islamic-flag-of-jihad
belgium-muslim-executes-female-judge-and-her-clerk-in-cold-blood
belgium-illegal-alien-muslims-protest-free-our-friends-allah-akbar
The UK next...
Below are headlines - get the actual links here http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/...hey-drive-a-belgian-family-out-of-their-home/
belgium-anti-islamists-vow-to-impeach-muslim-extremist-politicians
belgium-outraged-citizen-interrupts-swearing-in-ceremony-for-newly-elected-radical-islamist-councillor
belgium-newly-elected-representatives-of-the-islam-party-say-we-are-all-islamists
belgium-radical-muslims-move-closer-to-an-islamofascist-takeover-without-having-to-fire-a-shot
multicultural-brussels-where-white-women-cannot-walk-down-the-street-without-being-sexually-harassed-and-called-whoresby-muslims
belgium-leftist-protesters-scream-hamas-hamas-jews-to-the-gas
belgium-many-schools-are-virtually-empty-on-muslim-holidays
bad-news-for-belgium-40-of-students-are-muslims
belgium-trailer-for-immigration-invastion-the-new-colonization-documentary-narrated-by-conservative-politician-filip-dewinter
vlaams-belang-the-only-party-in-belgium-with-any-guts-creates-another-controversial-poster-campaing-against-muslim-immigrants
belgium-right-wing-groups-take-to-the-streets-shouting-non-assimilated-muslims-out-and-no-to-islamic-facism
muslim-jihadist-came-all-the-way-from-paris-just-to-stab-two-policemen-in-brussels
belgium-muslim-riots-break-out-after-muslim-baghead-refused-to-show-face-in-security-check-then-attacked-police-officers
belgium-baghead-bounty
belgistan-sharia-showdown-is-coming-to-brussels-but-it-looks-like-there-is-nothing-anyone-can-dowill-do-to-stop-it
belgium-politician-risks-muslim-backlash-after-using-teenage-daughter-dressed-in-burka-and-bikini-for-campaign-against-islam
belgium-daughter-of-right-wing-leader-filip-dewinter-dons-a-bikini-and-a-headbag-in-a-new-campaign-against-islamization
looks-like-brussels-could-become-the-new-capital-of-the-islamic-republic-of-eurabia
soon-the-flag-of-islam-will-fly-over-belgium-and-the-rest-of-europe-and-one-day-soon-over-the-white-house
belgium-five-muslim-girls-beat-up-a-jewish-classmate-calling-her-a-dirty-jew
belgium-radical-islamic-group-behind-opening-of-sharia-court-in-antwerp
good-news-from-belgium-anti-muslim-sentiment-higher-than-ever-before
belgium-raging-muslim-teens-go-wilding-in-the-streets-of-antwerp
belgium-muslim-scum-cover-up-a-cross-on-a-cathedral-with-the-islamic-flag-of-jihad
belgium-muslim-executes-female-judge-and-her-clerk-in-cold-blood
belgium-illegal-alien-muslims-protest-free-our-friends-allah-akbar
I put your misunderstanding of my post down to the fact that we do not have an 'irony' smiley!
But I stand by what I say. What can we do, other than vote UKIP (which I intend to do)?
Many of the population seem not to be concerned, despite a recent racist (if it is permitted to use that term in this instance) attack on a white soldier; our politicians are quite happy to make all sorts of concessions to muslims; our judges appear to bend over backwards for them.
So, what can those of us who can see what is happening do? Please tell me and I'll do it.
I had a look at those and I'm quite worried. If this can happen in Belgium, it can happen here.
The people who can do something about this frightening prospect becoming reality (politicians) seem unable or unwilling to do anything. Why?
This business of removing all traces of Christian festivals from the calendar has similarities in the UK. Changing Christmas, for example, to Winter Festival (or whatever) may sound all very fair as it refers to no religion, but how is it that such things as Ramadan are acceptable?
The more I read and hear, the more I am certain that islam WILL take over the world eventually, and whose fault will that be?
I'm just pleased to say that my wife and I will, by then, be in our boxes. I do feel sorry for young people today, though.
This man speaks a great deal of sense. I'd challenge any islam-apologists to criticise anything he says.
Of course, any criticism they should make will amount to an unqualified "he's a racist".
The population of this country are actually preconditioned not to fight the arrival of an Islamic state.
Years of socialist tinkering has left people unable to think freely.
I was extremely fortunate to have been brought up after the second world war as a child of the sixties. The wars end only 15 yrs previous meant the country still had an attitude of self governance.
There was a great national pride. I used to go round the playground as a kid in shorts and in gangs we would run round chanting 'we won the war in 1944'
I bet kids doing that nowadays would be sent to the headmistress and suspended in the belief that somehow their actions were 'racist'.
My kids have been educated through lessons that global warming will kill all the fluffy Polar bears and that man is evil but they all want an iphone and dont give a hoot about the workers on low pay commiting suicide.
I am a great believer in noone getting bullied even in the army I used to stop fights amongst my fellow soldiers if I felt there was a bullying element to it. Two lads having a set to to settle an argument fine . .Someone attacking someone because he was bolstered by the rest of the squad by pack mentality no.
I have been lucky enough to be self employed for the majority of my life so I have never had to cowtow to all the latest PC rules.
When I did work as an employee a fellow colleague told another colleague I was a racist Bastard - my accuser was a muslim - my crime was to give him a late shift and another worker a white lady an early shift , It was a pruely practical decision based on the white workers childcare needs and based on what she said she would be able to do in the ineterview. An investigation found the Muslim guilty of professional misconduct and he was to be reported to his professional body , but of course this never happened and the net result was my employers shrank away from any action.
The companies zero tolerance policy to racism and its equality and diversity was proven to be just a sham. Of course if I had told other colleagues that the muslim was a racist bastart (which he was) My feet would have left the ground quicker than you could say 'Gross misconduct' and 'P45'.
Thats the problem noone dare discuss the issues because they are conditioned to think that speaking about it is wrong so wrong in fact that in HR policies you are summarily sacked on the spot.
I was at a party at the weekend and I was shocked by the venhement position they had regarding the EDL.
I have come to looking at the EDL after Lee rigbys death and have found that there is a lot of sense their leader says but that their media portrayal is skewed beyond belief.
Typical example - You see media of the EDL portrayed as racists , fascists. People shouting and looking angry wearing full face masks and you think outrageous what a set of ****s.
But then you do some investigation and you find instead that they are wearing masks so their employers wont identify and sack them or that their families wont be subject to death threats and abuse.
You then find out that the violent displays at their rallies are instigated by the Police who allow counter demonstrations of UAF protesters to meet the EDL and throw bottles and hurl abuse at them. The media sit by and film the confrontations and smugly proclaim 'ooh look violent facist racists' while totally failing to report they are under a shower of objects and abuse from a 'state sponsored organisation infiltrated by anarchistic rentamob socialists called the UaF'
The sad fact that the EDL aren't even fascist or racist is lost on the public whos twenty second concentration span and years of conditioning that racism is bad and only white people do it enables them to take the easy way out and not even consider the debate.
Years of socialist tinkering has left people unable to think freely.
I was extremely fortunate to have been brought up after the second world war as a child of the sixties. The wars end only 15 yrs previous meant the country still had an attitude of self governance.
There was a great national pride. I used to go round the playground as a kid in shorts and in gangs we would run round chanting 'we won the war in 1944'
I bet kids doing that nowadays would be sent to the headmistress and suspended in the belief that somehow their actions were 'racist'.
My kids have been educated through lessons that global warming will kill all the fluffy Polar bears and that man is evil but they all want an iphone and dont give a hoot about the workers on low pay commiting suicide.
I am a great believer in noone getting bullied even in the army I used to stop fights amongst my fellow soldiers if I felt there was a bullying element to it. Two lads having a set to to settle an argument fine . .Someone attacking someone because he was bolstered by the rest of the squad by pack mentality no.
I have been lucky enough to be self employed for the majority of my life so I have never had to cowtow to all the latest PC rules.
When I did work as an employee a fellow colleague told another colleague I was a racist Bastard - my accuser was a muslim - my crime was to give him a late shift and another worker a white lady an early shift , It was a pruely practical decision based on the white workers childcare needs and based on what she said she would be able to do in the ineterview. An investigation found the Muslim guilty of professional misconduct and he was to be reported to his professional body , but of course this never happened and the net result was my employers shrank away from any action.
The companies zero tolerance policy to racism and its equality and diversity was proven to be just a sham. Of course if I had told other colleagues that the muslim was a racist bastart (which he was) My feet would have left the ground quicker than you could say 'Gross misconduct' and 'P45'.
Thats the problem noone dare discuss the issues because they are conditioned to think that speaking about it is wrong so wrong in fact that in HR policies you are summarily sacked on the spot.
I was at a party at the weekend and I was shocked by the venhement position they had regarding the EDL.
I have come to looking at the EDL after Lee rigbys death and have found that there is a lot of sense their leader says but that their media portrayal is skewed beyond belief.
Typical example - You see media of the EDL portrayed as racists , fascists. People shouting and looking angry wearing full face masks and you think outrageous what a set of ****s.
But then you do some investigation and you find instead that they are wearing masks so their employers wont identify and sack them or that their families wont be subject to death threats and abuse.
You then find out that the violent displays at their rallies are instigated by the Police who allow counter demonstrations of UAF protesters to meet the EDL and throw bottles and hurl abuse at them. The media sit by and film the confrontations and smugly proclaim 'ooh look violent facist racists' while totally failing to report they are under a shower of objects and abuse from a 'state sponsored organisation infiltrated by anarchistic rentamob socialists called the UaF'
The sad fact that the EDL aren't even fascist or racist is lost on the public whos twenty second concentration span and years of conditioning that racism is bad and only white people do it enables them to take the easy way out and not even consider the debate.
Will history repeat itself?
Will we hit a breaking point?
Its happened before in Europe!
The last time was only was only twenty years ago!
If it kicked off again in Bosnia, would there be as big a public outcry now as there was then?
Hitler started off like Tommy Robinson, then he got backing from behind the scenes from rich and powerful industrialist and their sort of nobility at the time.
Will we hit a breaking point?
Its happened before in Europe!
The last time was only was only twenty years ago!
If it kicked off again in Bosnia, would there be as big a public outcry now as there was then?
Hitler started off like Tommy Robinson, then he got backing from behind the scenes from rich and powerful industrialist and their sort of nobility at the time.
The truth is that Humans disgust me now.
We have been extremely fortunate to have had peace in the Uk since the end of the second world war bar the Irish troubles incursion into our territory.
But who are we kidding. Our own history is littered with invasions and civil wars.
Only by being an Island have we escaped the continual warfare of the rest of the world.
But now we have let the enemy within.
How stupid was that?
Our politicians have to act NOW while control is still within parliament.
Carrying on as if there is no issue will end up with the debate being fought on the streets just like in every other country of the world.
Are we civilised or not?
We have been extremely fortunate to have had peace in the Uk since the end of the second world war bar the Irish troubles incursion into our territory.
But who are we kidding. Our own history is littered with invasions and civil wars.
Only by being an Island have we escaped the continual warfare of the rest of the world.
But now we have let the enemy within.
How stupid was that?
Our politicians have to act NOW while control is still within parliament.
Carrying on as if there is no issue will end up with the debate being fought on the streets just like in every other country of the world.
Are we civilised or not?
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Not only Tommy Robinson and the EDL. I have heard people - invariably young people, make of that what you will - accusing Nigel Farage and UKIP of racism.
I think the 'people with an agenda' target young people because they are, shall we say, 'more receptive' to such suggestions that everyone except the Labour, Liberal and Green parties are racist. Then you hear these youngsters sounding off about how the country is so backward and needs to change.
I think you should be at least 40 years old before being allowed to vote.
I think the 'people with an agenda' target young people because they are, shall we say, 'more receptive' to such suggestions that everyone except the Labour, Liberal and Green parties are racist. Then you hear these youngsters sounding off about how the country is so backward and needs to change.
I think you should be at least 40 years old before being allowed to vote.
You are typical of the headburying fools who will not , cannot or are actually incapable of entering a debate.
It points to your lack of intellignece I would say.
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