Israel under attack

[ellal]

So, no, I'm not Jewish, I just changed my avatar to an Israeli flag to reflect my feelings.

What makes you proud about supporting Hamas.

So are you 'proud' of what the state of Israel has been doing to the Palestinians since 1948?

Are you 'proud' of the illegal settlements in the West Bank, and the murders of innocent Palestinians by the settlers and the IDF?

And are you 'proud' of the state of Israel effectively keeping Gaza as an 'open prison'?

Personally I'm not 'proud' of the actions of hamas whatsoever. In fact quite the opposite...

But I understand that over 70 years of oppression inevitably brings hatred to the surface time and time again...

I was proud to meet the people and live in a country so utterly focussed on defending itself, on defending it's citizens and defending it's right to exist.

Israel is indeed a great place, and I too lived there for a while but later on...

However unlike you I don't have a biased opinion on the reality of the situation, and your post means that you have no idea at all...

Taking one side means that the conflict will just keep dragging on, and at some point one side or another will trigger a region wide explosion of violence that could quite frankly threaten the entire world!

 

[Munroast]

Leaving the fruit cake nut job to one side

After this Israeli ground operation

“( pass through )

And they succeed in getting rid of Hamas

Than what , do they or any one else have a plan as to the governance of Gaza in the short term ? Plus rebuilding the place ???

they will never get rid of Hamas, the more you kill the more will join their ranks. its what they do out there.

There will never be peace in that part f the world, if you could jump 500 years into the future, I bet they are still killing each other, its what they do in that part of the world, its the heat, it fries their brains. and global warming won't help.

I wish Israel well, but seriously they are just a slightly less bunch of fruitcakes then their neighbours.

 

[ThaBoom]

Another sensible person seeing the truth.

 

[Odds]

The top image below shows Beit Hanoun in the north of the Gaza Strip on October 10 2023, and the bottom one shows the same area 11 days later.

 

[Notch7]

Another sensible person seeing the truth.

Hard to disagree with any of that.

 

[Notch7]

But I understand that over 70 years of oppression inevitably brings hatred to the surface time and time again

It’s a wider conflict than that though, Hamas are proxies for Iran and a bunch of others

 

[DiyNutJob]

they will never get rid of Hamas, the more you kill the more will join their ranks. its what they do out there.

Yet you believe nuking iran would get rid of the iranians. If iran is nuked, israel will be flattened. It's not hard to flatten a country the size of a parking lot with conventional weapons. Once flattened, the palestinians will do the rest on foot. It's only an assumption that iran hasn't nukes.

There will never be peace in that part f the world, if you could jump 500 years into the future, I bet they are still killing each others

On the internet, they will not have peace. If you could jump back 500 years, you will see palestine was largely in peace. It is possible to project from that if there will be peace in the future.

 

[Odds]

If you could jump back 500 years, you will see palestine was largely in peace. It is possible to project from that if there will be peace in the future.

Go back that far and you'd find the Ottoman Turks in charge.
Peace on their terms?
Perhaps.
But a country of their own?
Get back in your time machine, Mr. Wells, and see how much further you have to go...

 

[DiyNutJob]

Go back that far and you'd find the Ottoman Turks in charge.

Did the turks complain of palestine problems?

 

[Londoner2]

A pro-Palestinian progressive says so?
I call bullsh!t

Its quite possible, the IDF turned up and just sprayed the area with bullets, its what they are used to doing.

they will never get rid of Hamas, the more you kill the more will join their ranks. its what they do out there.

There will never be peace in that part f the world, if you could jump 500 years into the future, I bet they are still killing each other, its what they do in that part of the world, its the heat, it fries their brains. and global warming won't help.

I wish Israel well, but seriously they are just a slightly less bunch of fruitcakes then their neighbours.

2 state solution is the answer, the aggressor has rejected this , this is the problem, the aggressor wants it all, everything is just excuses.

 

[DiyNutJob]

2 state solution is the answer

If that is the answer, why wasn't it effective historically?

 

[Brigadier]

If that is the answer, why wasn't it effective historically?

Ruling classes.

 

[Notch7]

It's not hard to flatten a country the size of a parking lot with conventional weapons

Russia consistently failed to do it in Ukraine

anyway it would be easy to eliminate Iran, it’s ruled by people who are scared of women

 

[DiyNutJob]

Russia consistently failed to do it in Ukraine

Russia doesn't flatten a brother nation. Russia makes nato feed brother nation. You and your chums feed russia's brother nation, everyone is a winner.

anyway it would be easy to eliminate Iran, it’s ruled by people who are scared of women

Yes, very easy on the internet.

 

[Londoner2]

If that is the answer, why wasn't it effective historically?

Its been offered now but 1 party does not want it, is it because it is armed and abetted to the hilt by the West.