Jack Straw

[mlb3c]

like i said.....oh dear, another one

after saying that...i read what you said b-a-s....you have a point ...to a point.
but i think that when you "think" in such a literal way, you're going to run into some big probs. I can speak for myself and my experiences...i would hate to think that you judge me purely on what i post here. i am so much more. i can be your best friend or your worst enemy...depending on the situation. i dont have an opinion on everything and my point of view has been challenged in my life...i am open to new ideas and another way of thinking..and i have been misunderstood on a variety of issues because i remained silent. it's when it gets abusive, that it loses its credibility. differences...bring it on....spit in my face....i'll walk away.

 

[noodlz]

ceilingwall...you are some cracker (it's Chris Rock, but never mind )

Maybe I'm white and a Muslim......would I have to choose a side?....I can tell you one thing for sure, if it were a choice of one....your side.....no thanks. Don't you see that this kind of attitude of yours will drive people to extremism? What do you mean by we (the whites)...can't you even think in terms of Brits or do you not think that non-whites have an equal status in this country. Are Jews white? How could we not have gone to war twice, especially not against Nazism?...very few people would advocate that view except for pacifists and fascists......I doubt from your tirades you're a pacifist.

Just because you take money from Muslims clearly does not mean you are not a racist.

For your information, personally, I think extremists on both sides are both as culpable for many of the problems we have. Using a phrase like 'play the white man' was generally accepted many years ago and I've said some similar things in the past knowing no better.......I'm an Arsenal supporter and we've got a traditional rivalry with Tottenham which had a big Jewish following, so much so we used to call them 'Yidos' as a jibe - I joined in with the rest of the kids, but when I learnt better I tried to do better...I didn't use it anymore.........it is not only what you say but the way that you say it, your feelings behind it. I hope you're not so old school as to know no better. You reinforce my perceptions of you from your further comments and, honestly, I find it quite sad.

I did feel sympathy for your son for what its worth, but did you really have to make such a big deal of it? Maybe you react to everything like that?

It seems there's little else to say to you as you continously write abusive posts, so there is little room for reasoned debate, though I do not wish you any ill.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

i would hate to think that you judge me purely on what i post here. i am so much more..

I'm sure you are, but I've never met you, I've never heard your voice or heard you laugh or seen you smile, or smelled your perfume...

But in terms of the persona you present here, I can do nothing except judge you on what you post here....

 

[ban-all-sheds]

bas you're spoiling my fun.

Sorry....

 

[mlb3c]

i would hate to think that you judge me purely on what i post here. i am so much more..

I'm sure you are, but I've never met you, I've never heard your voice or heard you laugh or seen you smile, or smelled your perfume...

But in terms of the persona you present here, I can do nothing except judge you on what you post here....

Well?.....I'd like to hear it. what is your judgment?

 

[ceilingwall]

I agree with you on this point, but you have to look at it from the other side of your statement, you have to agree with me that there is to many that come here and do not put anything into this country just take,

Everyone who has a regular job is paying taxes and so paying for your NHS treatment, police, schools etc. Many immigrants send any extra back to families who are far poorer than you will ever be.

Also, how many british people go overseas on business to fleece local economies and bring the profits back here?

Why is it my NHS, I go private, but still pay the other, it is funny these countries oversea welcome us british companies, other wise they would have nothing or very little, what pulzles me is India fought for there independence we give it to them (which was right) but they all seem to what to live here with us, do we get our independence back.

 

[ceilingwall]

ceilingwall...you are some cracker (it's Chris Rock, but never mind )

Maybe I'm white and a Muslim......would I have to choose a side?....I can tell you one thing for sure, if it were a choice of one....your side.....no thanks. Don't you see that this kind of attitude of yours will drive people to extremism? What do you mean by we (the whites)...can't you even think in terms of Brits or do you not think that non-whites have an equal status in this country. Are Jews white? How could we not have gone to war twice, especially not against Nazism?...very few people would advocate that view except for pacifists and fascists......I doubt from your tirades you're a pacifist.

Just because you take money from Muslims clearly does not mean you are not a racist.

For your information, personally, I think extremists on both sides are both as culpable for many of the problems we have. Using a phrase like 'play the white man' was generally accepted many years ago and I've said some similar things in the past knowing no better.......I'm an Arsenal supporter and we've got a traditional rivalry with Tottenham which had a big Jewish following, so much so we used to call them 'Yidos' as a jibe - I joined in with the rest of the kids, but when I learnt better I tried to do better...I didn't use it anymore.........it is not only what you say but the way that you say it, your feelings behind it. I hope you're not so old school as to know no better. You reinforce my perceptions of you from your further comments and, honestly, I find it quite sad.

I did feel sympathy for your son for what its worth, but did you really have to make such a big deal of it? Maybe you react to everything like that?

It seems there's little else to say to you as you continously write abusive posts, so there is little room for reasoned debate, though I do not wish you any ill.

You have no idea was to what I think or do, what you do not understand is that I have my culture and why should I change it to make others happy, when they will not, I was alway told you do as the romans do when you are in Rome.
but not them, all the do-good-ders speak up for them but the do-good-ers do not have to live near them where the white in his own country is the minority, but what nobody understands is that history as the habit of repeating it's self, then the do-good-ers will run for cover as the norm, it is already started in my area as well as other parts of the country as we all know.

 

[ceilingwall]

ceilingwall...you are some cracker (it's Chris Rock, but never mind )

Maybe I'm white and a Muslim......would I have to choose a side?....I can tell you one thing for sure, if it were a choice of one....your side.....no thanks. Don't you see that this kind of attitude of yours will drive people to extremism? What do you mean by we (the whites)...can't you even think in terms of Brits or do you not think that non-whites have an equal status in this country. Are Jews white? How could we not have gone to war twice, especially not against Nazism?...very few people would advocate that view except for pacifists and fascists......I doubt from your tirades you're a pacifist.

Just because you take money from Muslims clearly does not mean you are not a racist.

For your information, personally, I think extremists on both sides are both as culpable for many of the problems we have. Using a phrase like 'play the white man' was generally accepted many years ago and I've said some similar things in the past knowing no better.......I'm an Arsenal supporter and we've got a traditional rivalry with Tottenham which had a big Jewish following, so much so we used to call them 'Yidos' as a jibe - I joined in with the rest of the kids, but when I learnt better I tried to do better...I didn't use it anymore.........it is not only what you say but the way that you say it, your feelings behind it. I hope you're not so old school as to know no better. You reinforce my perceptions of you from your further comments and, honestly, I find it quite sad.

I did feel sympathy for your son for what its worth, but did you really have to make such a big deal of it? Maybe you react to everything like that?

It seems there's little else to say to you as you continously write abusive posts, so there is little room for reasoned debate, though I do not wish you any ill.

Just because someone decides what I have posted is abusive, it make me sick as you all stick you heads in the sand and cannot face the truth as it is, you just make light of it, but I can tell you it will come round and bite you where it hurts, this is one more nail in the white mans (sorry Brit's) coffin, no freedom of speech or expression, as it will upset the no whites,
by the way my father was in the army before the last war start and went right the way to Germany, but if he was a live today I do not think if we asked him to do it again, if he looked around he would say no-way we should have let the Germans in and the true facts a lot of the older end (BRIT'S) are saying the same, but I bet you have never asked anybody this have you. now if you would like a reasoned debate about this countrys future just reply, I have a degree in it's history, about the jew's/ blacks/ and anybody else you would like to debate. if some one calls me a idiot I call them, but what would you want me to do turn the other side so he can give me one more insult, when somebody calls you a idiot they have lost the word game.

MOD 2

when i decide you are being abusive the axe falls END OFF

post is now unlocked any more in the same vein and the lot will be deleted