Jeremy (C) Hunt picks the wrong battle

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17'000+ posts on construction related issues says that I get the gist. I assume you can count?

never make assumptions noseall

Lyndon Baines Johnson ounce said " the first rule of politics is the ability to count "

I wrongly (?) assumed that u can count ?? (Brexit referendum ) & the general election

 

[noseall]

never make assumptions noseall

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I assume u do know this is a diy site Noseall ????????

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Correct. Well spotted.

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[JohnD]

Our much-unloved Health Secretary is arguing with Stephen Hawking over matters of fact and scientific evidence.

Which of them is more likely to be telling the truth?

It's very noticeable that nobody has found evidence to bolster Jeremy the Hunt.

 

[noseall]

It's very noticeable that nobody has found evidence to bolster Jeremy the Hunt.

That is because he is a lying, manipulating Tory ****.

 

[SirGalahad]

Political parties don't ruin your health.
People ruin their own health by lack of exercise, over eating and living in cack hole cities where carcinogenic pollution is rife.

So how would you fund the healthcare system?

You seem to be one of those who want a privatised system. I will break it down so you can understand.

In a privatised system - who pays for the treatment and who provides it? Well lets say like the US its the Insurance companies that pay for the treatment. This is an extra cost of administration that you will have to pay for - but you hate red tape and pen pushers well in an Insurance based system thats what you get.

In the US about 25% of health costs are absorbed by administration.

Now in the US, the vast majority of healthcare is provided through your workplace. So they have to negotiate prices with the insurers but the insurers have the power to dictate prices.

Now hospitals need to cover their costs but to do that they need to be able to account for everything right down to a cotton bud. So their admin costs are inflated.

On top of this with their litigious culture you have to pay for expensive medical negligence premiums. Costs are just adding up.

Now we get onto the staff. As the staff have paid for themselves through University and are in large amounts of debt -they want payback so Hospitals need to remunerate staff accordingly. So as education costs rise so does the cost to employ these future medical staff.

But wait on you can just recruit foreign medical staff? But that means immigration!!!!

All in all the the health sector in the US has doubles from about 9% to about 20% of the GDP and costs are not sustainable.

Warren Buffet has argued that it would be better for the US to sort out their healthcare system to make companies more competitive than lower tax rates.

But if logic doesnt appeal to you, and you are ruled by emotion then why do you hate the NHS so much?

 

[SirGalahad]

That is because he is a lying, manipulating Tory ****.

Tory supporters welcome their lying overlords like Hunt, May and Mogg with relish and zeal.

 

[noseall]

Tory supporters welcome their lying overlords like Hunt, May and Mogg with relish and zeal.

Of course they do. Look at Trump. Lying, dishonesty and bull sh it is the basis for RWR fascism.

 

[Roger928]

Tory supporters welcome their lying overlords like Hunt, May and Mogg with relish and zeal.

Just as labour supporters welcome their lying overlords like campbell, bliar, and mandleson with relish and zeal.

 

[Roger928]

Of course they do. Look at Trump. Lying, dishonesty and bull sh it is the basis for RWR fascism.

No schitt?

 

[Roger928]

So how would you fund the healthcare system?

You seem to be one of those who want a privatised system. I will break it down so you can understand.

In a privatised system - who pays for the treatment and who provides it? Well lets say like the US its the Insurance companies that pay for the treatment. This is an extra cost of administration that you will have to pay for - but you hate red tape and pen pushers well in an Insurance based system thats what you get.

In the US about 25% of health costs are absorbed by administration.

Now in the US, the vast majority of healthcare is provided through your workplace. So they have to negotiate prices with the insurers but the insurers have the power to dictate prices.

Now hospitals need to cover their costs but to do that they need to be able to account for everything right down to a cotton bud. So their admin costs are inflated.

On top of this with their litigious culture you have to pay for expensive medical negligence premiums. Costs are just adding up.

Now we get onto the staff. As the staff have paid for themselves through University and are in large amounts of debt -they want payback so Hospitals need to remunerate staff accordingly. So as education costs rise so does the cost to employ these future medical staff.

But wait on you can just recruit foreign medical staff? But that means immigration!!!!

All in all the the health sector in the US has doubles from about 9% to about 20% of the GDP and costs are not sustainable.

Warren Buffet has argued that it would be better for the US to sort out their healthcare system to make companies more competitive than lower tax rates.

But if logic doesnt appeal to you, and you are ruled by emotion then why do you hate the NHS so much?

Americans are the fattest tubs of lard on the planet. So of course their medical care costs will be rising.

 

[Roger928]

labour supporters welcome their lying overlords like campbell, bliar, and mandleson with relish and zeal.

Of course they do. Look at Corbyn. Lying dishonesty and bull sh it is the basis for LWR fascism.

 

[JohnD]

Look at Corbyn.

What can you tell me about Corbyn sitting on the floor of a Virgin train?

 

[Ihavenojob]

What can you tell me about Corbyn sitting on the floor of a Virgin train?

He's a ****ing tramp. His dog on a piece of string was cropped out of the picture.