Just wrong

[AdamW]

Now, I don't want to get a reputation for being some kind of Mary Whitehouse type on here.

But whilst enjoying a few beers with my friends this afternoon, I couldn't help but notice something you don't usually see parked in a bar... what do you think?

(edit, picture removed in case chav-mum in pub with newborn baby was actually a high-flying big city lawyer, and newborn baby was really just a partner in the firm.)

 

[oilman]

I agree totally, this sort of thing is wrong. After all, having taken the photo, which could be seen as being intrusive, it then gets published, and if my missus ever identifies me here I'll be in awful trouble

 

[empip]

One complaint is one too many !

Guess who ??

 

[jbonding]

its the biggest floor piano ive ever seen.

 

[gcol]

I agree, kids in pubs are a no no. I even disagree with dogs in pubs - what would it be like if everyone brought their dog into the pub? Pandamonium that's what. You gotta draw the line somewhere, so draw it at none allowed.

Can I just ask though, how do you add a picture to a post?

Cheers,
Gcol

 

[WoodYouLike]

I agree, kids in pubs are a no no. l

You'll all be in a big surprice then in pubs in Ireland, Holland, Belgium
They raise kids there in pubs.

 

[Big_Spark]

Adam, I hardly think that the kiddie would be served alcohol!! Could it be the parent was a member of off duty staff collecting wages or something else?

Does the Bar/Pub serve food? Could the parents have been eating rather than drinking.

To be honest if that was my kid, and I saw some fella taking pictures of it, I would assume they were a nonce and beat the **** out of them, so perhaps you would be better advised in future not to take photo's of other peoples children when you don't have the permission to take the photo's..seriously, it could get you into trouble..both with the parents and the Police.

 

[breezer]

i agree with FWL_Engineer, the push chair may belong to some one else, the fact that two blokes are standing near it is irellvant, also if they do find this site they could legaly sue you for invasion of privacy etc, i would remove the picture.

what if you took a picture of some one that was supposed to be elsewhere at the time, you can get in a lot of trouble, unless you have the person in the pictures permission. The picture also appeasrs to be in a bar, belive it or not that is not a public place, so the owners could also sue you

how would you like it if some one took a picture of you and put it on the net saying something deroatory about you? not nice is it?

 

[oilman]

After that beating this should help. (only if you have sound though, then you kill your computer, Arrrgggggghhhhhhh!!)

 

[petewood]

I agree the child should not be in the pub until it's old enough to buy a drink. For that matter kids should not be seen in shops, cinemas, restaurants, swimming pools, ice-rinks, pavements, etc etc. In fact when an adult decides to start a family they should have to sign a civil contract stating that they will not inflict their brats on the general public for at least 12 years, and when taking them to or from school the children should be kept out of site if possible but silent at all times, even if it involves gagging them.

 

[gcol]

LOL Petewood. The reason I'm against kids in pubs is not because they're a nuisence running round and shouting and such, but because I don't think parents should subject their kids to cigarette smoke.

I agree that parents should be responsible for keeping their kids quiet too. As the father of a 16th month old, I try and remove her from earshot whenever she creates in public. It does bug me when parents just carry on as if nothing's happening when their kids are screaming the place down.

Breezer, a bar is a public place. http://www.bipps.org/pubs/publicplaces.pdf

Cheers

 

[oilman]

The Public Places Charter (Annex A) is a set of principles agreed between the
Department of Health and the following hospitality bodies:

Association of Licensed Multiple
Retailers*
British Beer and Pub Association*
British Casino Association
British Entertainment and Discotheque
Association
British Holidays & Home Parks
Association
British Hospitality Association*
British Institute of Innkeeping*
Business in Sport and Leisure
Club Institute Union
Federation of the Retail Licensed Trade
– Northern Ireland
Federation of Licensed Victuallers
Association
Guild of Master Victuallers
Licensed Victuallers - Wales
The Restaurant Association*

I suspect this is free use of meaning of words, and nothing to do with defining what is a public place.. Most places are not public, even if the public have access. A supermarket is not a public place, nor is a station, nor is an hotel, nor is a public bar. You can be barred access by the proprieter. A puplic place is the Queen's Highway, and you can even be removed from that, though the police have to do it.

 

[AdamW]

OK, to answer a few questions:

1) The child is NOT in the pram. The child was currently out of shot, to the left, being held in a very bad position by the mother (also out of shot). Head was lolling about all over the place.

2) The child, which is not in shot anywhere, appeared to be a victim of foetal alcohol syndrome. The poor wee chap had the tradmark elvish face and was pretty damn small. Small enough that he might have been a newborn.

3) The bar was not serving food

4) The woman who was holding the child (presumably the mother) had a pint in her other hand.

how would you like it if some one took a picture of you and put it on the net saying something deroatory about you? not nice is it?

I wouldn't take a baby into a bar. I'm sorry, but it's not on. Having children definitely shouldn't mean the end of your social life, however there is no excuse... NO excuse to take a baby into a smokey bar so you can have a pint. If you employed the services of a nanny, and you found out she had been taking YOUR baby into a pub, would you be happy?

If I do something as irresponsible and neglectful as her, then please do take a photo and put it on the net. It might then shame me into improving myself.

 

[empip]

The definition of a "public place" was of concern to your Lordships. Therefore, I have taken extensive advice on it. A public place means any premises or place to which, at the material time, the public or any section of it have access, on payment or otherwise, as of right or by virtue of express or implied permission.

Lords, Hansard 3 Apr 2004 : Column 550.

 

[ohmygodwhathaveyoudone]

wrong.wrong.wrong. adam was there loud music on when you took the picture?