Kitchen wiring - cooker spur q

[Fran Faulkner]

In my new kitchen I shall have an electric oven, a gas hob and a dish-washer.

Looking at connecting up, I know that a 'cooker' needs a 45 amp radial circuit of its own, and that I could use a switch which also has a 13 amp socket built in. However, looking at installation guides for built in ovens on Screwfix, they seem to come with a 13 amp plug attached. Is this so, or just with some electric ovens? (always had a free standing gas cooker till now!) If I put in the radial circuit, can I (safely) put a socket on the end instead of a cooker connection unit?

 

[breezer]

depends on cooker rating.

most cookers can simply be plugged in to a normal socket outlet, its the "hob" (rings) that draew alot of current, but yours will be gas?

ohh, if they are gas they will probably need a socket too for ignition

why not install a ring for your cooker and d/w and dont forget part p

 

[andy]

Looking at connecting up, I know that a 'cooker' needs a 45 amp radial circuit of its own,

so what about the industrial cookers needing 300A. or maybe the small fan oven using 2KW?

and that I could use a switch which also has a 13 amp socket built in. However, looking at installation guides for built in ovens on Screwfix, they seem to come with a 13 amp plug attached. Is this so, or just with some electric ovens? (always had a free standing gas cooker till now!) If I put in the radial circuit, can I (safely) put a socket on the end instead of a cooker connection unit?

i dont have 1 of these

so i cant tell you what you need to do

 

[breezer]

i dont have 1 of these

so i cant tell you what you need to do

you can buy one from here

 

[Adam_151]

Thought you used a mystic cat, andrew?

 

[andy]

Thought you used a mystic cat, andrew?

i do, but he's sleeping. again.

aswell as the fact he's proven to be wrong many times.

 

[Fran Faulkner]

Looking at connecting up, I know that a 'cooker' needs a 45 amp radial circuit of its own,

so what about the industrial cookers needing 300A. or maybe the small fan oven using 2KW?

and that I could use a switch which also has a 13 amp socket built in. However, looking at installation guides for built in ovens on Screwfix, they seem to come with a 13 amp plug attached. Is this so, or just with some electric ovens? (always had a free standing gas cooker till now!) If I put in the radial circuit, can I (safely) put a socket on the end instead of a cooker connection unit?

i dont have 1 of these

so i cant tell you what you need to do

Ah well, I'll just read the helpful posts then.

 

[andy]

Ah well, I'll just read the helpful posts then.

if you dont supply ALL info (power ratings mainly) then its impossible for us to give you a proper reply. or we can give you a reply which should suit any cooker. get a 70KVA 3 phase supply and have a 125A 3PH cooker outlet. then wire your cooker into that. this will cost you several thousands. but if we know what the demands are, we can give you a more realistic answer

 

[Adam_151]

aswell as the fact he's proven to be wrong many times.

They are never much good are they? Mine electrocuted himself some time ago, terrible mis-judgement on his part, decided that the service head was his territory and proceded to mark it as such...

 

[andy]

aswell as the fact he's proven to be wrong many times.

They are never much good are they? Mine electrocuted himself some time ago, terrible mis-judgement on his part, decided that the service head was his territory and proceded to mark it as such...

they should be adequatly protected from bein ****ed on. i think you should sue the DNO for it.

 

[Fran Faulkner]

Ah well, I'll just read the helpful posts then.

if you dont supply ALL info (power ratings mainly) then its impossible for us to give you a proper reply. or we can give you a reply which should suit any cooker. get a 70KVA 3 phase supply and have a 125A 3PH cooker outlet. then wire your cooker into that. this will cost you several thousands. but if we know what the demands are, we can give you a more realistic answer

I can't give any power ratings, as I haven't bought an oven yet - hence my question

built in ovens on Screwfix, they seem to come with a 13 amp plug attached. Is this so, or just with some electric ovens?

Your post seems to suggest there aren't any 'standards' or 'norms' for built in domestic oven power ratings.

 

[Adam_151]

they should be adequatly protected from bein p****d on. i think you
should sue the DNO for it.

I forgot to mention I had two, a breeding pair, the other one did start legal procedings, but a few days later I found her strung from an electricity pole by an offcut of concentric , its all a terribly upseting chain of events

 

[breezer]

Your post seems to suggest there aren't any 'standards' or 'norms' for built in domestic oven power ratings.

that is true, i did say so earlier

 

[andy]

Your post seems to suggest there aren't any 'standards' or 'norms' for built in domestic oven power ratings.

exactly

 

[plugwash]

well there are yes but it depends very much on the type

single ovens are usually less than 3KW (so can be plugged in) double ovens generally somewhere around double that.

hobs are generally MUCH higher