landlord certificate

[Paul Barker]

Tenants pay council tax not landlords.

Plumbing is a very stupid career choice, I'd go in for teaching English as a foreign language in the UK.

 

[Alanmallam]

you ain't suggesting it's becoming a minority language are you ?? oop's

 

[Softus]

I would take the view that a new certificate IS required UNLESS the boiler has been professionally installed by a CORGI AND the Benchmark Certificate has been completed.

I completely agree. As for the 'problem' on this topic, when the f*ck did the HSE become responsible for making sure that only competent people do gas work? FFS! It's everyone's responsibility!

Are you a tenant? Well then, insist on seeing the certificate. Check the credentials of the installer.

Or you're a landlord? Then do what you're f***ing supposed to do, and get the installation certified. And don't pay peanuts and expect anything more than monkeys.

Perhaps you're a letting agent - then simply do what you're paid to do.

Or are you a prospective house purchaser (i.e. every f***er is one) - insist on things being above board and legal. If it's not right then don't buy it.

If there's one thing that p*sses me off it's abdication of responsiblity - just because the HSE exists, some people think they can sit on their f***ing a*se and wait for cowboys to be found out and prosecuted. The HSE is there to police the laws and regulations - they can't detect every installation crime, any more than the police can detect every burglary.

FFS! This f***ing country really gets my rag sometimes.

 

[Paul Barker]

I guess to plan on becoming a plumber you are an IT student?

I had some training on Thursday, they said not many rgi's are renewing at the moment. Should leave a nice big void for you to fill in a few years time.

 

[Alanmallam]

I guess to plan on becoming a plumber you are an IT student?

erm, no, read posting dated "30/05/06 9:17 pm .

 

[Paul Barker]

Sorry I missed that post.

You should be cut out for it then, long as you are strong enough to bench press a boiler up through a loft hatch, nimble enough to catwalk from roof ridge to chimney top, small enough to slither round like a snake between dusty muddy subfloor and downstairs joists, roll in rockwool at the eves of lofts, traverse across roof struts, spend half a day in a cupoboard bent over in one position piping up a boiler with 6" of room below boiler for all pipes, and can **** through the eye of a needle which is what it takes to understand regulations these days.

Apart from the bog standard plumbing stuff, like having stronger grip than the average jo who can't get things undone or done up that we have to, someone has to. Can one armed get the back nut off the far bath tap, undo pump nuts at the back corner of airing cupboard whilst burning arms on hot pipes. Oh burns, at least two a day. If you smoke fags tasting of laco, wife complains you smell when you get home at night.

 

[Alanmallam]

If there's one thing that p*sses me off it's abdication of responsiblity - just because the HSE exists, some people think they can sit on their f***ing a*se and wait for cowboys to be found out and prosecuted. The HSE is there to police the laws and regulations - they can't detect every installation crime, any more than the police can detect every burglary.

FFS! This f***ing country really gets my rag sometimes.[/quote]
to all your question's above these comment's it's no to all of them. I am a very concerned parent with a very good engineering back ground, who throughout the last 10 mths has only come across people who are more than happy to try and" abdicate their responsibility". there was no LGSR in place prior to occupancy even tho the letting agents assured me i would be able to view this and other documents when the students took this place over. the answer was "what do you want me to do produce one out of thin air !!" the organisations concerned said "we don't have the resources and once you get your LGSR, we cannot deal with it retrospectively. the fact that it wasn't there wasn't an issue !? the people
concerned are more than happy for these types of situation's to continue so long as they don't become too "serious" and when it does go wrong they turn around and say i didn't realise it was that bad. but in this case if it does go wrong they have all been warned, by email ,post and phone, let's just hope nothing does go wrong!
cheer's to one and all, alanmallam.

 

[Alanmallam]

sounds just like what i've been use to the for last 25 yrs , clearance what's that , an "interference fit" ? yeah it's interfering with me getting it in!
(or out) cheers alanmallam.

 

[Paul Barker]

The **** hits the fan when there is an incident. We had one here, the landlady's husband was a sparky(some of whom think they have a god given right to do gas work, I split my sides when I went to a boiler breakdown, customer prowdly told me it wasn't the pcb because an electrician had already confirmed that was OK), he took a gas fire out to remove a dead bird put it back, tenant smelled gas called Transco. Happened to mention in passing Landlady's partner a sparks had removed it. All Hell broke loose, HSE visited as did corgi, major affair, sparks was given a lifetime ban by corgi!!! GOOD!

 

[ChrisR]

Alan I think you're expecting people to take on a responsibility they don't have. Nobody in the frame has one to you.
Whether you, or some opinionated gas bloke on a web forum, thinks x y z should happen doesn't matter a jot. Regulations are all that count. Anything more is extra money.

If you care about the safety issues, just get a LGSR, probably no more than £50.