Learn to live with it...

[ellal]

What is your problem with vaccinations? Just your irrational fear that something bad might happen in 50 years if you have one?
Do you have any vaccines, or are you total antivax?

I have said I'm not anti jab many times...

And I have no 'irrational fear', but I do wish to weigh up whether a jab has been effectively tested or not...

And at the moment I don't think any of them have been evaluated for long term risks...

I have had jabs over the years and have had our kids jabbed for various diseases, but only after due care and consideration and in the case of MMR given slightly later in line with advice from non UK doctors...

 

[Captain Nemesis]

... the 'virus' ...

Why the quote marks?

... the 'virus' ...

Why the quote marks?

 

[JP_]

advice from non UK doctors...

I don't know who these doctors are, but measles, one of the biggest killers of under 5s in the past, is not the rise because people have decided not to vaccinate.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4450

What are the risks associated with MMR that UK doctors are not telling us? And please don't quote the discredited British doctor who carried out illegal tests on kids and made a load of false conclusions based on that.

 

[ellal]

Why the quote marks?


Why the quote marks?

Why repeat yourself?

 

[Captain Nemesis]

I assumed youd missed seeing the question.

Is there another reason why you havent been able to answer it?

 

[ellal]

What are the risks associated with MMR that UK doctors are not telling us? And please don't quote the discredited British doctor who carried out illegal tests on kids and made a load of false conclusions based on that.

Which bit of 'non UK doctors' did you not understand?

We were in the midst of a MMR debate at the time (for our youngest) and on the one hand there were anti vaxxers and on the other the UK establishment...

So we took advice from abroad and many countries have always delayed the MMR jab (or done single doses) because they considered that a child's immune system needed to be better adapted than the age at when the UK was giving theirs.

And that's what we did. To not consider the options and without doing the research is in my opinion bad parenting!

 

[JP_]

Which bit of 'non UK doctors' did you not understand?

I am assuming it is not all non-Uk doctors saying this? The USA says it is safe.

What specific concerns do you have? I did my research, the only concern was autism, which was later retracted and Wakefield stripped of his licence - turns out he was hoping to profit from it!

 

[ellal]

I am assuming it is not all non-Uk doctors saying this? The USA says it is safe.

What specific concerns do you have? I did my research, the only concern was autism, which was later retracted and Wakefield stripped of his licence - turns out he was hoping to profit from it!

Again your assumption is incorrect

In the UK MMR is supposed to be given at 12 months (we were urged to do so at 9 months) and again at about 40 months, just before school...

Other countries differ https://vaccine-schedule.ecdc.europa.eu/

The UK is no longer on that website for obvious reasons...

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Which would be the correct assumption here:

You will not answer the question about why you put virus in quote marks because you realise the answer would not look good.

Or

You cannot answer the question about why you put virus in quote marks because you dont know.

?

 

[ellal]

Which would be the correct assumption here:

You will not answer the question about why you put virus in quote marks because you realise the answer would not look good.

Or

You cannot answer the question about why you put virus in quote marks because you dont know.

?

Personally I don't give a flying f*ck about what you think regarding the 'virus'...

I could of course ask why you don't put virus in quote marks, but I don't...

The reasoning for the 'quote marks' is of course pretty obvious - except to the truly dumbed down!

 

[EFLImpudence]

I see tonight's Panorama is about the vaccine production - so all doubts will soon be allayed.

 

[JP_]

Again your assumption is incorrect

Are you suggesting that every single doctor in the world outside the UK says not to have MMR jab? That doesn't make sense, especially as many countries say it is OK, as linked above.

 

[JP_]

The reasoning for the 'quote marks' is of course pretty obvious

So, you don't think it is virus? What is it then?

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Personally I don't give a flying f*ck about what you think regarding the 'virus'...

There is a great deal you dont give a ff about.

Truth.

Honesty.

Evidence.

Sanity.

Other people.

Society.

I could of course ask why you don't put virus in quote marks, but I don't...

Its because I dont disagree with the term.

The reasoning for the 'quote marks' is of course pretty obvious - except to the truly dumbed down!

To describe your erratic brain activity as "reasoning" is laughable.

Your excuse for the quote marks is that you disagree with the use of the word. You dont think it is a virus. And theres no reasoning in that whatsoever.