Leave-voting MP Nadine Dorries slams May's Brexit deal because UK won’t have seats in European parli

[ban-all-sheds]

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[JohnD]

'When I use a word,' Theresa May said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

 

[vinty]

doesn't seem to be a person you should take seriously.

She wanted to trick her constituents into thinking she spends time in her constituency:

"In a series of letters to the commissioner, which are included in the report, Ms Dorries explains why she wanted to give the impression that she lived at a house she was renting in her constituency.

She says: "Since I first rented in the constituency, I made a song and dance about being at the property. I have mentioned it on my blog a number of times.

"This was done to comfort my Association. The previous MP only visited the constituency occasionally-sometimes only as often as once every six weeks - and they were keen that I reversed that impression."

So she rented a house at the taxpayer's expense. But didn't live there.


"The £18,000 rent on the constituency house was paid using her second home allowance - she said she had considered buying a house with the allowance but it "just didn't feel right".

While attending Parliament in London, she mainly lived at her family home in the Cotswolds, and until December 2006 claimed for overnight stays in a Westminster flat.

After that, she occasionally stayed overnight in a hotel or at the Carlton Club, a central London gentleman's club with traditional links to the Conservative Party, the report reveals."

and admits it was just a trick

"When she was interviewed by a Sunday Telegraph reporter last year she said she transported "boxes of books and ornaments and a couple of pictures to make the place look lived in".

"The Sunday Telegraph journalist saw through this and commented on the sparsity and dustiness of the house and the fact that the post hadn't been picked up from the mat for two weeks.

"I then described it as my 'post divorce bolt hole' even though I wasn't yet divorced in order to give the impression to my constituents that I did in fact live there and to convince the journalist that I did.""

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11597664

Can you believe a word she says?

People who claim taxpayers money for houses then don't live in are usually done for benefit fraud.
Unless your a politician of course.

 

[ellal]

Ask 10 Brexiteers what do they want and you get 11 replies.

10 thick brexshiteers sitting on a wall.

10 thick brexshiteers sitting on a wall.

And if only one thick brexshiteer worked out what the hell the real cause of their problems were, there would be no Brexshit at all....

 

[SirGalahad]

Brexit didn't exist in a vacuum. It's decades of anti Eu propaganda by the right wing press that's led us here.

A town in Wales that voted overwhelmingly for Brexit just had one of their main employers leave. The same has happened in Hull with a pharmaceutical company.

When people vote against their self interests then they have been conned.

 

[ellal]

When people vote against their self interests then they have been conned.

Dumb down the electorate and you get a dumb compliant decision

 

[Ian H]

10 thick brexshiteers sitting on a wall.

10 thick brexshiteers sitting on a wall.

And if only one thick brexshiteer worked out what the hell the real cause of their problems were, there would be no Brexshit at all....

Did you make any effort to educate these thickos before the referendum or did you just abuse them then as well?

Serious question. I voted Leave but had I read some of (for example) Kankerots posts I may have changed my mind. If i’d have read your own posts I would have gone and voted Leave earlier.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Did you make any effort to educate these thickos before the referendum or did you just abuse them then as well?

Serious question. I voted Leave but had I read some of (for example) Kankerots posts I may have changed my mind. If i’d have read your own posts I would have gone and voted Leave earlier.

Well said!
I voted remain but I think Ellal is enough to push most people over the edge!!

 

[ellal]

I voted remain but I think Ellal is enough to push most people over the edge!!

As I've said before...You're thick as s hit!

Personally I've hedged my bets financially, so can sit and laugh at the brexshit lemmings as they jump off the cliff...

But family wise, decades of planning for the future is on hold...

But then brexshiteers don't give a monkey's about the millions of lives they are affecting for the worse...

Because they like you are thick as s hit!

Sorry if the truth hurts

 

[sodthisforfun]

As I've said before...You're thick as s hit!

Personally I've hedged my bets financially, so can sit and laugh at the brexshit lemmings as they jump off the cliff...

But family wise, decades of planning for the future is on hold...

But then brexshiteers don't give a monkey's about the millions of lives they are affecting for the worse...

Because they like you are thick as s hit!

Sorry if the truth hurts

There there, you feeling better now? Good boy.

Only insignificant, worthless small people get their kicks out of trying to be sh itty to others.

 

[Notch7]

It's decades of anti Eu propaganda by the right wing press that's led us here.

You make is sound like the expansion of the EU has nothing to do with it.

Do you think Corbyn has voted against the EU on many occasions because he was influenced by right wing propaganda?

In the 1975 European Communities referendum put forward by the Labour Party in the United Kingdom, Corbyn opposed Britain's membership of the EEC.[205] Corbyn also opposed the ratification of the Maastricht Treaty in 1993, saying: "... the whole basis of the Maastricht treaty is the establishment of a European central bank which is staffed by bankers, independent of national Governments and national economic policies, and whose sole policy is the maintenance of price stability[.] That will undermine any social objective that any Labour Government in the United Kingdom—or any other Government—would wish to carry out. ... The Maastricht treaty does not take us in the direction of the checks and balances contained in the American federal constitution[.] It takes us in the opposite direction of an unelected legislative body—the [European] Commission—and, in the case of foreign policy, a policy Commission that will be, in effect, imposing foreign policy on nation states that have fought for their own democratic accountability".[206][207][208]

"We have a European bureaucracy totally unaccountable to anybody, powers have gone from national parliaments - they haven't gone to the European Parliament, they've gone to the Commission and to some extent the Council of Ministers. These are quite serious matters."

— Jeremy Corbyn views on the European Union in 1996, Labour Party conference, 1996 [209]
Corbyn also opposed the Lisbon Treaty in 2008[210] and backed a proposed referendum on British withdrawal from the European Union in 2011.[211] Additionally, he accused the institution of acting "brutally" in the 2015 Greek crisis, accusing the EU of allowing financiers to destroy its economy.[212][213]

In July 2015, Corbyn said that if Prime Minister David Cameron negotiated away workers' rights and environmental protection as part of his renegotiation of Britain's membership of the European Union (EU), he would not rule out advocating for a British exit in a proposed referendum on EU membership,[214] and that he was in favour of leaving the EU if it became a "totally brutal organisation

 

[ellal]

Only insignificant, worthless small people get their kicks out of trying to be sh itty to others.

'Only' 17.4 million of "insignificant, worthless small people getting their kicks out of trying to be sh itty to others" out there at the last count

 

[Notch7]

Seems like Ellal is trying to get himself banned from yet another thread.

and then he will be crying about moderator bias

 

[SirGalahad]

You make is sound like the expansion of the EU has nothing to do with it.

Do you think Corbyn has voted against the EU on many occasions because he was influenced by right wing propaganda?

In the 1975 European Communities referendum put forward by the Labour Party in the United Kingdom, Corbyn opposed Britain's membership of the EEC.[205] Corbyn also opposed the ratification of the Maastricht Treaty in 1993, saying: "... the whole basis of the Maastricht treaty is the establishment of a European central bank which is staffed by bankers, independent of national Governments and national economic policies, and whose sole policy is the maintenance of price stability[.] That will undermine any social objective that any Labour Government in the United Kingdom—or any other Government—would wish to carry out. ... The Maastricht treaty does not take us in the direction of the checks and balances contained in the American federal constitution[.] It takes us in the opposite direction of an unelected legislative body—the [European] Commission—and, in the case of foreign policy, a policy Commission that will be, in effect, imposing foreign policy on nation states that have fought for their own democratic accountability".[206][207][208]

"We have a European bureaucracy totally unaccountable to anybody, powers have gone from national parliaments - they haven't gone to the European Parliament, they've gone to the Commission and to some extent the Council of Ministers. These are quite serious matters."

— Jeremy Corbyn views on the European Union in 1996, Labour Party conference, 1996 [209]
Corbyn also opposed the Lisbon Treaty in 2008[210] and backed a proposed referendum on British withdrawal from the European Union in 2011.[211] Additionally, he accused the institution of acting "brutally" in the 2015 Greek crisis, accusing the EU of allowing financiers to destroy its economy.[212][213]

In July 2015, Corbyn said that if Prime Minister David Cameron negotiated away workers' rights and environmental protection as part of his renegotiation of Britain's membership of the European Union (EU), he would not rule out advocating for a British exit in a proposed referendum on EU membership,[214] and that he was in favour of leaving the EU if it became a "totally brutal organisation

Corbyn is but one vote but the surprising fact is that Brexit brought together the fringes on the right and left. If I had to describe my leanings then I would be a mix of centre left and centre right policies.

I would be right on the limiting of benefits to individuals, corporations etc
I would be left on funding for health, education, transport
I would need an assessment for the re-nationalisation of the utilities before I decide where I stand.
I would be against HS2 period and Hinckley on its funding method but not on Nuclear Power itself.
I would be right on implementing Land Value Tax and reducing other personal and property taxes on buildings.
I would be right on reducing Intl Dev Budget.
I would be left on reducing tax avoidance schemes.

For me the policy has to be economically efficient in its use of resources both in the consumption and funding but also the incentives and disincentives it creates as well as factoring in externalities. For example the current policy of contracting out PIP assessments has cost more than if it was just done by the Government which only contracted it out because of ideology or stupidity.

On immigration as I have pointed out before - we could have better managed our borders and FOM all within the current EU rules. So I am hard pressed to say that I am left or right on that issue.

The benefits of being in the EU outweigh the costs. I know it's not a perfect institution and it does get many people angry and it does need reform but overall I can say currently as it stands we are better being part of it. This doesn't mean in the future if things change we cannot leave but at this current juncture it's madness.

 

[sodthisforfun]

'Only' 17.4 million of "insignificant, worthless small people getting their kicks out of trying to be sh itty to others" out there at the last count

Strange how you think that it gives you carte blanche to behave as badly as you like to others. I think you're secretly pleased really, as you think that it justifies your behaviour.