LETTER TO DAVID CAMERON & ED MILLIBAND
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Eh?How old is Ronny Raygun now??
Eh?How old is Ronny Raygun now??
No! Not you! I was referring to the x President
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I think Chap's got a point.
I don't think the "baby boomers" deliberately set out to leave the younger generation in a financial mess, but they were certainly lucky enough to live through a period where healthcare was free, higher education was free (including grants for living expenses), jobs paid well enough that an average family could live on a single income, and they had the benefit of a period of high inflation eroding the value of their mortgages. Final salary pension schemes were also commonplace.
The future for a well educated person coming out of university today is £50000 of debt, and no job to go into (if they're really lucky they'll get an unpaid internship).
Property prices are completely out of reach of the incomes of people in their 20s, and it's almost impossible to get a mortgage without a huge deposit.
If you don't buy rents are spiralling too.
I'm not that old, and with a young family things are difficult enough for us, but given the choice between then and now, I know which I'd choose...
Of course, we have got the internet, Sky plus HD and I-Phones these days, so it's not all bad
I think Chap's got a point.
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No he hasn't!!
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I don't think the "baby boomers" deliberately set out to leave the younger generation in a financial mess, but they were certainly lucky enough to live through a period where healthcare was free, higher education was free (including grants for living expenses), jobs paid well enough that an average family could live on a single income, and they had the benefit of a period of high inflation eroding the value of their mortgages. Final salary pension schemes were also commonplace.
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The baby boomers didn't make the laws or taxes, that was the Lib Lab Con that buried the heads in the sand, everyone was well aware that we were heading for a shortfall in the pensions and all of them did naff all. Perhaps if we had not stopped breeding, we would not have to import the labour from elsewhere!
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The future for a well educated person coming out of university today is £50000 of debt, and no job to go into (if they're really lucky they'll get an unpaid internship).
Property prices are completely out of reach of the incomes of people in their 20s, and it's almost impossible to get a mortgage without a huge deposit.
If you don't buy rents are spiralling too.
I'm not that old, and with a young family things are difficult enough for us, but given the choice between then and now, I know which I'd choose...
Of course, we have got the internet, Sky plus HD and I-Phones these days, so it's not all bad
Lucky you! All we had was the mods to have battles with...
I suppose it's easy to look back at BBs as jammy beggars who got it all. People often resent people for whom things seem to land in their laps. Compared to today's younger generation, the BBs really did have it all.
However, is it fair to criticise them. After all, they were born into a ruined country with rationing, bombed out houses, and most really didn't really have much at all. As time went on, the threat of nuclear armageddon took over from the chaos and desolation that Adolf bequeathed the BBS.
In fairness, looking at it in proper context, can you really blame the BBs when they grabbed the 'you've never had it so good' era with both hands. Any younger people who say they wouldn't is either a liar or not very bright.
You could also say that the BBs helped to get this country back on it's feet. It was them that were toiling in the factories, etc to make and sell the goods that the world was desperate for.
The BBs did well out of the era they were born into from very low and uncertain beginnings. Maybe they did take the rewards on offer. Then again, perhaps they naively thought that the good times were permanent. Unfortunately, as we now know with hindsight, they weren't.
However, is it fair to criticise them. After all, they were born into a ruined country with rationing, bombed out houses, and most really didn't really have much at all. As time went on, the threat of nuclear armageddon took over from the chaos and desolation that Adolf bequeathed the BBS.
In fairness, looking at it in proper context, can you really blame the BBs when they grabbed the 'you've never had it so good' era with both hands. Any younger people who say they wouldn't is either a liar or not very bright.
You could also say that the BBs helped to get this country back on it's feet. It was them that were toiling in the factories, etc to make and sell the goods that the world was desperate for.
The BBs did well out of the era they were born into from very low and uncertain beginnings. Maybe they did take the rewards on offer. Then again, perhaps they naively thought that the good times were permanent. Unfortunately, as we now know with hindsight, they weren't.
Uh uh.
House prices/rents are the biggest living costs that young people have to pay, why is property so expensive?
1. Nimbyism, largely driven by those baby boomers living in nice houses, not wanting "their" fields built upon.
2. Landbanks, large plots sold of to large developers, rather than what other countries do, make large developments and sell individual plots, guess which generation had a large hand in this system.
3. Buy to rent property speculation, now this is anecdotal and I can't be arsed to source this, but out of all the people I have met that do this, again guess what generation they are.
pred said:
And which generation voted them in like good little tribes, supporting their teams.
Our generation still has some of that ****ty attitude left, but you can look at the vote split and see a little less tribalism voting.
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I don't hate the older generation, and I don't care that they paid in less than their "pot", we should support the older generation.
But I ****ing hate some of the **** they have left our generation in.
thats very good, but it would cost £10 trillion. countrys just over 1 trillion in debt.
and the economy,and globall economy has been deliberatly manipulated, for a future event,that is to come in to being in the years to come.
if you want people and countrys to submit, to something, attack them financialy. then you rule them by fear, the EU , cameron wont want to leave the EU, becuase he fears losing trade, and favour.
Which demonstrates two rather major problems
1) People think money just grows on trees
2) The yoof of today cannot do simple arithmetic
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Camoron is not going to have a say weather we are in or out of Europe soon, he will be replaced by Boris, and hopefully we will not have a referendum on Europe, UKIP will get in power and we will be out!!
Camoron is not going to have a say weather we are in or out of Europe soon, he will be replaced by Boris, and hopefully we will not have a referendum on Europe, UKIP will get in power and we will be out!!
4) the solution to the world's problems can be found on facebook.
What next? The simel kure for cancer ........ simply tell all the bankers and politicians to stop spending money on parties and cars and instead spend it on a machine that cures cancer. Solved.
Why dont you post that on facebook you mugs.
What next? The simel kure for cancer ........ simply tell all the bankers and politicians to stop spending money on parties and cars and instead spend it on a machine that cures cancer. Solved.
Why dont you post that on facebook you mugs.
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