Living rooms have shrunk?

[JohnD]

Other taxes, such as council tax and business rates, are highly relevant to the discussion, when a proposed new tax would replace them. Can you show that the old taxes are better than the new? The advocates of LVT have repeatedly shown why they consider the new tax is better than the old.

Shown why they consider.....Mmm, the advocates would, wouldnt they?

Well go on, then.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Surely several things are being conflated here. LVT may be a good idea but so may other things.

Corbyn and McDonnell could just as well introduce an idle-land tax.
They could review the present system which is purposely configured so that the wealthy do not pay enough tax - because the wealthy make the rules.

They could ensure that income earned in Britain is taxed in Britain even though people pretend to live elsewhere.
They could eliminate the tax havens; most of which are British.

 

[JohnD]

If somebody else wants to propose a change to the UK taxation system, they are welcome to do so.

That's not a sensible reason for rejecting the only serious proposition that's on the table.

 

[Notch7]

An opinion based on ignorance

I see, so you want to put forward your claimed benefits of LVT, but if I ask questions or scrutinise, I am ingorant.

What do you hope to gain? If you to sell something, do you think the most successful way to promote is to tell the buyer they are ignorant?

You can be as rude as you like, Im just interested to know if you consider your approach one of positive persuasion

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

I see, so you want to put forward your claimed benefits of LVT, but if I ask questions or scrutinise, I am ingorant.

What do you hope to gain? If you to sell something, do you think the most successful way to promote is to tell the buyer they are ignorant?

You can be as rude as you like, Im just interested to know if you consider your approach one of positive persuasion

You are not scrutinising, you are making the same argument over and over again, based on the same mistaken assumptions.
It is what you do.

 

[Roger928]

If all towns, cities, villages and supporting infrastructure was doubled, it still would not make much impact on the land mass. The country would still be largely empty

But you would have a population of 130 million.
And you think lvt tax is the answer? Your living in cloud cuckoo land.
The parasites are not the wealthy in this country. The parasites are the welfare spongers, foreign bred slackers, overpaid public sector workers guaranteed gold plated pensions etc.

 

[JohnD]

Other taxes, such as council tax and business rates, are highly relevant to the discussion, when a proposed new tax would replace them. Can you show that the old taxes are better than the new? The advocates of LVT have repeatedly shown why they consider the new tax is better than the old.



Well go on, then.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

But you would have a population of 130 million.
And you think lvt tax is the answer? Your living in cloud cuckoo land.
The parasites are not the wealthy in this country. The parasites are the welfare spongers, foreign bred slackers etc.

Blimey rogerIQ28, it has only taken you a week to work out that response.
You are improving!

 

[Roger928]

But you would have a population of 130 million.
And you think lvt tax is the answer? Your living in cloud cuckoo land.
The parasites are not the wealthy in this country. The parasites are the welfare spongers, foreign bred slackers, overpaid public sector workers guaranteed gold plated pensions etc

And another 7% of land concreted over. Much of it farm land and protected areas. And become even more reliant on imported food. Farming methods that become even more cruel to animals.
As brigadier said earlier. Humans are "cockroaches". Give them an inch and they take a mile.

 

[Notch7]

You still do not get it. LVT prevents wealth from being syphoned off into financial parasites's bank accounts. What you earn, you keep.

The country doesnt have LVT currently, to introduce it would entail huge tax payments due from the wealthy. As I said, its a re distribution of wealth. Im not saying there is anything wrong with that but what is wrong with just being transparent.

There is no need for putting 'you' in bold.

 

[JohnD]

The country doesnt have LVT currently, to introduce it would entail huge tax payments due from the wealthy.

I see you've decided yourself what the tax rate should be, and you've decided it should be very high. But that's only your imagination. It's not Fact.

How long did it take you to realise what the most important factor in the cost of Council Tax, Business Rates, and LVT would be?

 

[Notch7]

I see you've decided yourself what the tax rate should be, and you've decided it should be very high. But that's only your imagination. It's not Fact

If a small number of land owners, own the majority of the land, then LVT amounts would be huge.

I didnt say high percentage.

Why cant those who are advocates of LVT be transparent in their discussions. Is it because they want to hide the truth?

So what would the percentage be? If you are an advocate of LVT, then presumably you must have researched what the figures are likely to be. Or are you needing to hide it?

 

[JohnD]

Maybe it should start out at the same amount of revenue that Council Tax and UBR brings in. Not even the Daily Wail readers could sensibly moan about that and pretend it's a tax on gardens (like they did prior to the last election, in the disinformation campaign).

What amount do you think it should start at?

 

[Roger928]

What amount do you think it should start at?

High enough that makes you moan about it on here.

 

[JohnD]

silly roger