Low profile socket behind wall mount TV

[mr_chaela]

Looking for a low profile solution to power a wall mount TV.
An FCU/Cable Outlet not really suitable as TV has a fixed power lead and would be pain to connect/disconnect.

Could an MK 995 clock connector be used. MK do not specify the rating of the connector but simply say it is fitted with 2A fuse. The TV has a 3A fuse.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

 

[AndyPRK]

I don;t see why not.

Personally I used a legrand slimline socket. (other sockets are available). I fitted it within the boarder of the TV after lots of measuring, the height was ok.
I left 1/3 of the socket outside of the TV edge so that I could get to the on/off switch easily.

This was a 2012 panasonic tv

 

[OwainDIYer]

If you don't mind paying for it,

https://www.deborahmeaden.com/investment/sync-box

 

[JohnW2]

Looking for a low profile solution to power a wall mount TV. An FCU/Cable Outlet not really suitable as TV has a fixed power lead and would be pain to connect/disconnect. Could an MK 995 clock connector be used. MK do not specify the rating of the connector but simply say it is fitted with 2A fuse. The TV has a 3A fuse.

I don't know where I got them (a very long time ago), who made them, whether they are still available and whether they are/were fully (if at all!) BS1363-compliant, but in a few places around my house (where, like you, space is limited) I have used 'ultra-slim' 13A plugs, plugged into standard (could be 'flat plate', these days) 13A sockets - it might be worth looking to see if they still exist.

Another approach I've taken in a couple places, in situations similar to yours, is to recess a standard 13A socket into the wall, so that a standard 13A plug does not protrude beyond wall level when plugged in.

Kind Regards, John

 

[AndyPRK]

Are those the plugs with 2 screws to hold on the cover?

 

[FrodoOne]

Really?
Do you NOT have recessed standard Socket Outlet mountings available in the UK, even at the ridiculous price quoted in the following?
https://www.bunnings.com.au/repelec-recessed-white-single-gang-wall-point_p4331257

 

[JohnW2]

Really? Do you NOT have recessed standard Socket Outlet mountings available in the UK, even at the ridiculous price quoted in the following?

Not that I've personally ever seen - although, as I wrote, it's something which I have been k nown to improvise! I imagine that the 'ridiculous price' reflects the perceived very small size of the potential market (so small, they no-one seems to try, at any price, in the UK!)

https://www.bunnings.com.au/repelec-recessed-white-single-gang-wall-point_p4331257

Bunnings foray into the UK was amazingly short-lived

Kind Regards, John

 

[FrodoOne]

Not that I've personally ever seen - although, as I wrote, it's something which I have been known to improvise! I imagine that the 'ridiculous price' reflects the perceived very small size of the potential market (so small, they no-one seems to try, at any price, in the UK!)
Bunnings foray into the UK was amazingly short-lived

Kind Regards, John

Perhaps you did not understand that which I was trying to convey. (The foray of Bunnings into the UK market is immaterial in this regard.)
Recessed mountings for Socket Outlets (and other devices of similar "standard" size) are available in Australia [and in North America]).
My question was "are they not so available in the UK" and, if not, why not?

While the "market" may be seen as very small (reflecting the high price for the devices concerned) this market does exist, the devices are there (in some countries) so, why should the UK be an outlier, with any such mounting/device not being readily available in that country?

 

[JohnW2]

Perhaps you did not understand that which I was trying to convey. ... Recessed mountings for Socket Outlets (and other devices of similar "standard" size) are available in Australia [and in North America]). My question was "are they not so available in the UK" and, if not, why not?

I fully understood 'what you were trying to convey' - and, as you are aware, my responses were that (a) I am personally not aware of such products in the UK and (b) that I suspect the reason for this may be a (correctly or incorrectly) perceived very small market.

While the "market" may be seen as very small (reflecting the high price for the devices concerned) this market does exist, the devices are there (in some countries) so, why should the UK be an outlier, with any such mounting/device not being readily available in that country?

Beyond what I've already said, your guess is as good as mine.

On thinking a little, one possible explanation is that, unlike plugs used in many other countries, the cable exits a UK (BS1363) plug at right angles to the pins (i.e. usually 'parallel to the wall'), so the vertical extent of the recess would have to be pretty large to avoid an unacceptably sharp bend where the cable existed from a recessed plug. The recess would also have to be quite wide (horizontally) because of the width of UK plugs (and the need to get fingers down the sides of them to pull them out) ... so maybe they would require such a large recess that it is not felt that they would be aesthetically acceptable?

Kind Regards, John

 

[FrodoOne]

I fully understood 'what you were trying to convey' - and, as you are aware, my responses were that (a) I am personally not aware of such products in the UK and (b) that I suspect the reason for this may be a (correctly or incorrectly) perceived very small market.
Beyond what I've already said, your guess is as good as mine.

On thinking a little, one possible explanation is that, unlike plugs used in many other countries, the cable exits a UK (BS1363) plug at right angles to the pins (i.e. usually 'parallel to the wall'), so the vertical extent of the recess would have to be pretty large to avoid an unacceptably sharp bend where the cable existed from a recessed plug. The recess would also have to be quite wide (horizontally) because of the width of UK plugs (and the need to get fingers down the sides of them to pull them out) ... so maybe they would require such a large recess that it is not felt that they would be aesthetically acceptable?

Kind Regards, John

Thereby is (perhaps) a design fault in UK plugs demonstrated by your response - since many plugs in other countries are designed to overcome this deficiency, small though any market maybe.

(The apparently strict requirement that the cable exits vertically downwards from a UK Plug is an obvious example, and I do realise that it is necessary for the required fuse to be located somewhere - which is unnecessary for electrical plugs in most other jurisdictions.)

Please do look at some of the many plugs and socket outlets shown in https://www.plugsocketmuseum.nl/Overview.html

 

[JohnD]

(perhaps) a design fault in UK plugs

They were specified that way to prevent people yanking them out of sockets by hauling on the cable.

 

[JohnW2]

Thereby is (perhaps) a design fault in UK plugs demonstrated by your response - since many plugs in other countries are designed to overcome this deficiency, small though any market maybe.l

There's really no point in talking about 'design faults' in UK plugs, because they are what we have, and they are not going to change, or 'go away' any decade soon!

As you observe, one of the issues is the need to accommodate a fuse in a UK plug, and changing that is even less likely to happen 'any decade soon', since it would require a total re-think of UK wiring practices, as well as the design of plugs & sockets!

Kind Regards, John

 

[OwainDIYer]

Thereby is (perhaps) a design fault in UK plugs demonstrated by your response - since many plugs in other countries are designed to overcome this deficiency, small though any market maybe.

(The apparently strict requirement that the cable exits vertically downwards from a UK Plug is an obvious example,

It is not a deficiency; it is a design attribute making it difficult (so people don't try) to unplug an appliance by yanking the flex, and facilitates a proper cord grip. We used to have rear-entry plugs (2 pin 5 amp); and shaver plugs are usually still rear-entry.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Perhaps a recessed box isn't necessary in the UK - or Europe.

A moulded UK plug is only ¾ of an inch deep.

A schuko plug with flex exiting parallel to the wall when inserted is about the same.

A plug with the flex exiting in line with the pins would be considerably more.

 

[JohnW2]

Perhaps a recessed box isn't necessary in the UK - or Europe. A moulded UK plug is only ¾ of an inch deep.

... true, but I suppose the point is that (rarely - hence the 'very small market') it does become 'necessary' if one doesn't have ¾" to play with!

Kind Regards, John