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[Scarlet Pimpernel]

No, I stated that Israeli Arab turnout for general elections are low in the State of Israel, it's assumed by way of protest. Your original assertion was that the 20% Israeli Arab population of Israel were not allowed to vote, you then obfuscated and said they were only allowed to vote in local elections.

The fact is, Israeli Arabs, living in Israel and holding Israeli citizenship have equal voting rights.

Being officially entitled to something and actually having it are two different things.
From my very first linked source:

The Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Druze in the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel in the Six-Day War of 1967 and later annexed, were offered Israeli citizenship, but most have refused, not wanting to recognize Israel's claim to sovereignty. They became permanent residents instead. They have the right to apply for citizenship, are entitled to municipal services and have municipal voting rights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel​

This does not include the thousands of Palestinians evicted that end up in refugee camps in Gaza.
I've previously included a link to illustrate what municipal voting rights allows, and it's not a vote in national elections.

As I've said, Israel is surreptitiously disenfranchising Palestinians in Israel by several means.

A decade of court battles later, Kurd and his unwelcome house guest are in the final stages of a plan hatched long ago by right-wing Israeli settlers: pick out Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem, evict the owners using property laws that favour Jews over Arabs and, one house at a time, turn entire neighbourhoods Jewish.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...of-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-1.4570432​

Where do you think these evicted Palestinians end up, buying another house in another street?
What percentage of Israeli population have been evicted and end up in refugee camps?

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[fillyboy]

The Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Druze in the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel in the Six-Day War of 1967 and later annexed, were offered Israeli citizenship, but most have refused, not wanting to recognize Israel's claim to sovereignty. They became permanent residents instead. They have the right to apply for citizenship, are entitled to municipal services and have municipal voting rights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

Sweet Jesus. OK so your own link confirms Israeli Arabs have full voting rights if they are an Israeli citizen, municipal voting rights if they do not have citizenship but permanent residency instead.

But here's the thing and your link confirms it, they were all offered Israeli citizenship but some turned it down because they won't recognise the State of Israel.

 

[fillyboy]

What percentage of Israeli population have been evicted and end up in refugee camps?

About 6 million in Germany wasn't it?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Sweet Jesus. OK so your own link confirms Israeli Arabs have full voting rights if they are an Israeli citizen, municipal voting rights if they do not have citizenship but permanent residency instead.

But here's the thing and your link confirms it, they were all offered Israeli citizenship but some turned it down because they won't recognise the State of Israel.

Only those who were not evicted from their home, farms and houses and ended up in a refugee camp in Gaza, were offered a vote. That's a tiny minority, and along way from 'all'.
By one means or another Israel is disenfranchising Palestinians in Israel, but not officially recognising those surreptitious policies. Even when Palestinians do have the right, they feel, and there is unofficial unspoken rules that ensure, that Palestinian parties and politicians have little influence in Israeli politics or policies.

As I've said, Israel is surreptitiously disenfranchising Palestinians in Israel by several means

So what good is a vote that is not a vote?
Even the laws of Israel favour Jews over Palestinians, even if they are citizens.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

About 6 million in Germany wasn't it?

I was referring to Israeli Palestinians, not Jews in Europe that were murdered during the Holocaust.
The one incident has no influence on the other, even if they may be historically related.
That would be like excusing Mugabe for the actions of colonialism.

 

[fillyboy]

Even when Palestinians do have the right, they feel, and there is unofficial unspoken rules that ensure, that Palestinian parties and politicians have little influence in Israeli politics or policies.

Damn, I'd forgotten about the unofficial unspoken rules.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Damn, I'd forgotten about the unofficial unspoken rules.

That's why they're surreptitious.
Some UK organisations have an endemic, systemic, racially biased attitude, but they're unofficial, unspoken, unwritten rules of behaviour.
Just because something is not officially recognised does not mean it does not exist.

 

[Vinty]

American public opinion towards Israel is changing.
Younger generations seem better informed about what is really going on.
Quote.
Pollster John Zogby told the BBC's podcast Americast that there had been a "dramatic" and "tectonic" shift among Democrats in their views towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1440691/joe-biden-democrats-revolt-israel-policy-palestinians-gaza-hamas-white-house-ont/amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16219194633523&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1440691/joe-biden-democrats-revolt-israel-policy-palestinians-gaza-hamas-white-house-ont