Mail loses to Meghan

[ellal]

Not sure I follow?

Some people obviously don't understand that the Mail isn't the only newspaper that tells porkies...

Although they do seem to have a certain agenda when it comes to a member of the royal family with a certain skin colour...

The same people also obviously don't understand that hating the institution of a monarchy is not the same as hating individual members of that archaic system of rule!

 

[noseall]

archaic system of rule!

You mean the largely symbolic one we have in the UK?

 

[EddieM]

But what do those that hate the Mail AND the Royal family think?

Well I'm anti the concept of Monarchy (I don't hate the royal family, as I don't know any of them) I like the daily hate mail, but for all the wrong reasons, the comments sections are priceless for a good laugh. My take on it is this, the Mail & Express constantly post nasty spiteful stories about Harry & Meghan, whom I don't have a particularly high opinion of, but I'm glad in this case the Mail has been called out.

 

[ellal]

You mean the largely symbolic one we have in the UK?

'symbolic'?

"The royal family has used a secretive procedure to vet three parliamentary acts that have prevented residents on Prince Charles’ estate from buying their own homes for decades"

"Secret documents have disclosed that the Queen used the procedure to secretly lobby for some laws to be altered to benefit her private interests or reflect her opinions on government policy."

"The same procedure allows Charles to screen proposed laws in case they damage his property estate"

"In total, at least 275 draft laws have been vetted by the prince between 1970 and 2020 under this procedure. They include a wide range of laws from the ban on foxhunting to changes in inheritance laws."

The process is called 'Queen's consent'...

The words pull, wool, and eyes come to mind

 

[noseall]

Lobbying is not ruling.

Secret you say?

Not convinced, sorry. Poor attempt at showing 'rule'.

 

[durhamplumber]

A silly claim.

Come come Joan...you hate liars ..Remember?

 

[Ihavenojob]

Who owned the letter, and did that person give the press permission to print it ?

 

[Diver Fred]

The right wing press were never going to give Harry and Meghan an easy ride - and as predicted, they have been relentless. I welcome deserved criticism of privileged folk, but the incessant lop sided attack against H & M v's that of the praise lavished on W & K, is not easy on the eye.

Whilst Harry's never going to have an easy time of it I do admire him. Do think that Meghan could be a little hypocritical as comes from an acting background but...

As for billy boy and waity katie, I have no time for them at all, he was OK as an EMS pilot (but then just how much did he do?) - I'd much rather see Harry and Meghan as figure heads.

I have little interest in the private lives of the Royals, but am undoubtedly fascinated at some stories depicting day to day stuff. I like Princess Anne because she is a grafter. The Queen herself has put in a fair shift too. They all tend to do more good than harm.

Have to agree about Anne and HRH.

 

[ellal]

Lobbying is not ruling.

Can you personally 'lobby' in your own interests and those of your chums?

And I guess you also don't understand the meaning of 'vetted'

But hey, it's amazing how many people believe things they are spoon fed without question...

Maybe the next thing you'll be telling us is that the UK has a written constitution that prevents such royal meddling?

 

[noseall]

As for billy boy and waity katie, I have no time for them at all, he was OK as an EMS pilot (but then just how much did he do?) - I'd much rather see Harry and Meghan as figure heads.

I'm mostly ambivalent towards any of them. My attention radar only spikes when The Wail cuts loose on H & M.

I'd rather see all of them play a role. No need for conflict or competition. The fact that Wills trained and flew as a military pilot is enough to earn my respect. He need not have shot lots of bad guys. I'm fine with Kate. She has dealt with Royal scrutiny with dignity and poise.

 

[noseall]

Can you personally 'lobby' in your own interests and those of your chums?

What do you think lobbying is?

And I guess you also don't understand the meaning of 'vetted'

But hey, it's amazing how many people believe things they are spoon fed without question...

Maybe the next thing you'll be telling us is that the UK has a written constitution that prevents such royal meddling?

The next thing I'll be telling you is that The Royals enjoy privilege, correct. However, they don't have any relevance regards 'ruling' over their subjects.

Spoon feed me something credible that convinces me that the royals actually do any 'ruling', and I'll munch on it. Thus far - nada.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Some of the reporting around Meghan during her time in the UK as a royal when compared to that of Kate made for interesting reading. I'm too lazy to look for it, however I think there was a media story a few months back that demonstrated the difference in reporting between the two even when relating to the same or similar event. Stories relating to Kate where usually crafted in a more positive manner, whereas those relating to Meghan had more negative connotations (sometimes very subtle), even when the story itself was a positive/feel good story.

So, as a very rough example, we saw things like this (made up examples to demonstrate my point):

Kate turns up for Wimbledon in beautiful dress she was previously seen in at two earlier events, showing her conservative side to spending and thoughtfulness for the environment.
vs
Meghan turns up for Wimbledon in dress she was previously seen in at two earlier events, sparking further rumours that she hates spending money and will curb Harry's spending.

 

[noseall]

Who owned the letter, and did that person give the press permission to print it ?

Have you read the judges ruling?

 

[durhamplumber]

Spoon feed me something credible that convinces me

Will have a long wait from Ellal.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Have you read the judges ruling?

no, though the letter is out for all to read, so what's the issue ?