Make your own

[joe-90]

It's just a game to get you to go green. What you don't pay in duty you will pay in another tax. The real cost of petrol is about 25p per litre. The rest is tax. Where are you going to get 65 million litres of cooking oil from day after day? (that's the amount we use in the UK each day)

 

[tim west]

joe you are missing the point made, I'm basically saying opt out of the system and make your own.

In so far as getting back the revenue what justifcaton has the government got to keep hammering the motorist apart from consumpton of fuel?

As said before making/recycling your own will ease this problem so if anything the government can reduce taxes, or is the truth comng out that the "eco" tax is just a ploy to get more tax from an easy touch like the motorist?

Makers of bio diesel must be reducing their carbon footprint, so where is the government initiative to start people off in producing it? Say a grant to purchase the necessary equipment.

Or is all this eco stuff a load of bull?

Come on government you want us to recycle and do our bit so where's your help to us to do so?

 

[joe-90]

It's all a load of bull. You cannot grow bio fuel crops without intensive farming which means pesticides from oil and fertilizers from natural gas. Plus the farmland required is taken out of the system for growing other crops which must now be transported from elsewhere. The bio crop needs planting, harvesting, oil extraction, filtering, and the amount of waste would be astronomical - yet it would all need sorting and dumping (or burning and adding to the carbon problem). The bottom line is that you may as well not bother and just use the oil (crude) in the first place.

 

[tim west]

It's all a load of bull. You cannot grow bio fuel crops without intensive farming which means pesticides from oil and fertilizers from natural gas. Plus the farmland required is taken out of the system for growing other crops which must now be transported from elsewhere. The bio crop needs planting, harvesting, oil extraction, filtering, and the amount of waste would be astronomical - yet it would all need sorting and dumping (or burning and adding to the carbon problem). The bottom line is that you may as well not bother and just use the oil (crude) in the first place.

you keep quotng new stuff, i'm talking about recycling old oil on an individual basis. or a small collective.

 

[joe-90]

It's all a load of bull. You cannot grow bio fuel crops without intensive farming which means pesticides from oil and fertilizers from natural gas. Plus the farmland required is taken out of the system for growing other crops which must now be transported from elsewhere. The bio crop needs planting, harvesting, oil extraction, filtering, and the amount of waste would be astronomical - yet it would all need sorting and dumping (or burning and adding to the carbon problem). The bottom line is that you may as well not bother and just use the oil (crude) in the first place.

you keep quotng new stuff, i'm talking about recycling old oil on an individual basis. or a small collective.

We use 65 million litres per day! How many litres are you talking about?

 

[tim west]

It's all a load of bull. You cannot grow bio fuel crops without intensive farming which means pesticides from oil and fertilizers from natural gas. Plus the farmland required is taken out of the system for growing other crops which must now be transported from elsewhere. The bio crop needs planting, harvesting, oil extraction, filtering, and the amount of waste would be astronomical - yet it would all need sorting and dumping (or burning and adding to the carbon problem). The bottom line is that you may as well not bother and just use the oil (crude) in the first place.

you keep quotng new stuff, i'm talking about recycling old oil on an individual basis. or a small collective.

We use 65 million litres per day! How many litres are you talking about?

depends on how many are interested in joining in.